Saxons - difference between 1866 & 1870

[mollinary]

Cam,

Yes, I'm rather afraid we did!  I am the last guardian of the true Wettin colours, and respond to any poor soul, sunk in error, who crosses my path. Good Prinz Albert deserves nothing less, God bless him!

Mollinary

[cameronian]

Curses; where might one find the 'One True Saxon Colours' available for cutting and pasting; you realise I'm going to have to change every battalion colour x 4 brigades!

[Ben Waterhouse]

Lemmey,

There is a great resource, and it was buying material from this particular site which got me all you could ever want to know about Saxon flags (and Prussian ones too).  Luckily, I think you can get what you want simply from looking on line. The site is German, if you follow these instructions you should get what you want.  The site is www.historischer-bilderdienst.de.     Click on the link marked Fahnen, Flaggen und Standarten.   Then you want to click on SF03 Hottenroth.  Sachsische Fahnen und Standarten.  Once in there, go to the bottom and click on
Leuchttisch.  A table of illustrations of Saxon flags should appear.  The last flag on Row 3 and the 5 flags on Row 4 , all with a green field, are the design you are looking for for 1866.  Incredibly, if you then click on the flag itself, you get a good enlargement.   I hope this should give you a good idea for painting a 10 mm scale flag. If you want to know the brigade differences, they are simple. In the four corners of the green field, on both sides, is either a Roman numeral I, II, or III in yellow, or a crown. I'll leave you to work out which brigade is which!  If you need any more details, drop me an e-mail and I'll see what I can do.

Mollinary

I bought some Hanoverian disks from these chaps (on your advice in another place!) - first class resources. highly recommended.

[Chad]

Lemmey

I might have been the 5th, but I am opting to do the western theatre. 

Chad

[mollinary]

Cam,

You probably have two choices. 1) Do what I do and use the Baccus flags, which are cheap and pretty accurate. They are also pretty accurate in size for 10mm figures. I have used them for my 1866 and 1870 Saxons, and my Prussians, mans I think they look pretty damn good!

2) Direct  the nice guy at Maverick Models to the site and ask if he can produce them for you in whatever size you are looking for.  I am told he is very open to suggestions of this sort if you have the details. You could even buy the CD, and send that to him, as the quality of the images on it is first class (it also includes the Leibfahne designs for the 1870 regiments).

Good luck!

Mollinary

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

My test models for second and third brigade models are nearly done, 3rd Brigade is looking cool with black piping, however, with yellow piping on light blue, 2nd brigade look like TRAFFIC WARDENS!
http://www.igg.org.uk/gansg/00-app1/tward2.jpg

[Hertsblue]

Bother; my Saxon flags don't look like this, in fact they don't look like it at all .. damn, didn't we have this conversation years ago, I'm losing it, I really am.

Join the club, Cam. Mine are green, thanks to Mollinary, but that's probably the best you can say for them. 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Not looking forwards to the next part, painting those standards. Cleared my Friday night painting schedule just to paint 4 flags! Photos late Friday night (I hope)!

[cameronian]

Cam,

You probably have two choices. 1) Do what I do and use the Baccus flags, which are cheap and pretty accurate. They are also pretty accurate in size for 10mm figures. I have used them for my 1866 and 1870 Saxons, and my Prussians, mans I think they look pretty damn good!

2) Direct  the nice guy at Maverick Models to the site and ask if he can produce them for you in whatever size you are looking for.  I am told he is very open to suggestions of this sort if you have the details. You could even buy the CD, and send that to him, as the quality of the images on it is first class (it also includes the Leibfahne designs for the 1870 regiments).

Good luck!

Mollinary

Good idea; Baccus it is.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Right guys, thanks for all the advice. First batch done (photos tomorrow),
Next batch primed and ready to go...
Next question: Horse artillery from 'The Armies of 1866, A Guide To the Weapons and Organisation of the Armies of the Seven Weeks' War' by Picklehaube Press notes the horse artillery wore 'the Horse Batteries had a black crested helmet with a raupe rather like that worn by the Bavarian Checaulegers.'
Would 1860's Bavarian BA10 Krupp C64 4pdr RBL, horse artillery crew do? Looking at a certain other manufacteurerers site (*QRF/Friekorp 15*) they look pretty close...
Thoughts?
Mad Lemmey

[mollinary]

Lemmey,

Yes, that is exactly what I did when I put together my Saxons.  As you probably already know, the horse artillery were armed with smooth bore 12 pdrs not rifled guns, so you will need to ask Leon to put in the guns from BA 12. These are not as a lot of folk-lore has it, old heavy Napoleonic guns, but new (late 1850s) short barrelled, light, shell guns.  Think the equivalent of the ACW Napoleons.  Their real problem was short range, and the Prussians in particular never really got to grips with how to use them without getting blasted by longer range rifled guns.  The guns in BA 12 are lovely little models, and a couple of actual examples are still on display in the Bavarian Army museum in Ingolstadt.
Looking forward to the photos!

Mollinary

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Thank you sir,
One day I'll buy you a beer in repayment (along with a gallon of coffee for AndyMac)!
Posting Photos now...

[Hertsblue]

How about teams? Will the Bavarians do for them too?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4963.0.html
Here they are.