Undercoating without spraying

Started by Last Hussar, 08 July 2023, 11:24:46 PM

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mmcv

I'd agree with John, I made the mistake of buying a cheap one a few years back and hardly ever use it now as it clogs so easily and gives really poor control, so worth investing in something a little better. It is handy for priming large batches indoors if you can get a decent spray on it. Though it depends on your workflow, good if you tend to do big batches of painting in the same project, but probably faffy if looking to only do a few at a time as have to dissemble and clean each time.

Orcs

I bought a Badger 360 Airbrush and a Paashe compressor with a 2 litre tank ( makes less noise than a tanless type) for about what the Airbrush would have cost in the uk. They even supplied a 240 volt powersupply with the compressor and I just changed the plug to a British one. Then it was almost $2 to th £1 though

You want a dual action gravity feed brush.

Look at trader below, they are often at wargames shows.

https://barwellbodyworks-shop.com/

You could try one of the Chinese sites like Temu




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Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Raider4


Quote. . . makes less noise than a tanless type . . .
You clearly bought the 'pale & pasty' version, aimed at nerds who live in their parents basement and never see sunlight.

Orcs




Quote from: Raider4 on 12 July 2023, 06:54:17 PMYou clearly bought the 'pale & pasty' version, aimed at nerds who live in their parents basement and never see sunlight.

;D  ;D

Read my comment again   "I bought a Badger 360 Airbrush and a Paashe compressor with a 2 litre tank ( makes less noise than a tanless type) "
so the type I bought was not a Tanless type.

I therefore should be a nice orange colour  ;D


The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Last Hussar

I have met Orcs.

Trust me, NO ONE would let him live in their basement.

Even Frank N Furter
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Last Hussar

Undercoated Pendraken ECW by brush with watered down white acrylic from Works (not the ice cream Works, the other one) today.

This is of note because it means I'm reestablishing my painting mojo. Even painted trousers on 30 of them. Might be 24, but still, something has tilted right.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Norm

My understanding is that an airbrush carries its own perils and that an air filter booth is an important addition. The acrylic spray that doesn't hit a target stays in the air as a super fine dust.

I have my booth out in a utility room, vented through a window and I still wear a mask.

For primer, I prefer brush on Vallejo, which seems to work better on plastic than metal. For metal I used to use Hammerite primer, but is a bit thick and smelly, especially once the tin has been opened and it starts getting a bit older, even that stuff will rub off metals, so needs careful handling (i.e none!) until paint and varnish are on.

Orcs

Quote from: Norm on 15 July 2023, 09:01:02 PMMy understanding is that an airbrush carries its own perils and that an air filter booth is an important addition. The acrylic spray that doesn't hit a target stays in the air as a super fine dust.

I have my booth out in a utility room, vented through a window and I still wear a mask.

For primer, I prefer brush on Vallejo, which seems to work better on plastic than metal. For metal I used to use Hammerite primer, but is a bit thick and smelly, especially once the tin has been opened and it starts getting a bit older, even that stuff will rub off metals, so needs careful handling (i.e none!) until paint and varnish are on.

In my experience the paint dust is not an issue, as its dry and is just dust of a different colour. Overspray can be an issue, but at 15psi it does not go more than a few inches over the subject, particularly if you are spraying downwards, as you normally are.
The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Last Hussar

I undercoated by brush. It was time intensive,  but at the moment nothing I couldn't handle; it's quite quick, j7st needed up with white paint on all my finger tips.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little."
Franklin D. Roosevelt

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Steve J

I'm finding the brush on primer (well thinned black paint at present) is working well, as with the never ending rain we have been having, I can carry on where as if I wanted to spray primer on, I wouldn't have been able to do it due to the weather.

John Cook

To be honest a large soft brush is what I use most of the time to apply primer/undercoat, often one and the same thing in practice on 10mm metal figures.  It is not much more labour intensive that using a spray and a lot less hazardous than an aerosol, or even an airbrush.  The latter produces no toxic fumes but as mentioned above it does produce particles.  It is recommended that you wear a mask when using an airbrush indoors and that is common sense really but I'd wear one when using an aerosol anyway, so not much of a challenge.  I've never had any issues using an airbrush indoors and I do suffer from Allergic Rhinitis, though quite what I'm allergic to has never been established.