1809 Allies - Not-Kickstarter! - Pledging closed, Naps getting sculpted!

Started by Leon, 09 October 2018, 10:12:07 PM

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Several years ago, we used a not-Kickstarter method to produce a new range of Mongols, which went down rather well and helped us put the range into production.  Well we're back for another project and this time we're heading to the Napoleonic period!

We've had several requests for an expansion of our 1809 ranges and we've chatted previously about gathering enough support for us to get them sculpted.  So this project is designed to do just that.  Forum member Zippee (Martin) has really taken the lead on this and helped us put together all of the lists and provided all of the reference material ready for our sculptor to get started.

So how does it work?

- Below is a list of the prospective ranges we'll be putting together, with the code, a brief description of the contents, and the price.

- If you would be interested in any of these items, please check through the list, and work out what you would purchase.

- Make a post here, stating what you would buy, such as 2 x NHD1, 2 x NDW3, etc.

- We'll total up your order and add you to the pledge list.

- If we have hit our target by midnight on October 31st, everyone who has pledged will be invoiced for 50% of your order.  Our sculptor will be given the go-ahead and we'll get them done through Nov/Dec/Jan.  We'll then get them moulded and start sending out customer orders at the end of February 2019.  Everyone will be invoiced for the remaining 50% + shipping once their order is ready to go.


What's the target?

We're looking to raise purchases over £3000 in total to allow us to start production.  This money is purely to cover the sculpting costs, we would then take on the cost of moulding and casting the orders at this end.  The range would be sculpted by Tony Q, the same sculptor who has done all of our 1809 and 1812-15 Nap ranges, so they would match perfectly with those other figures.


UPDATE - Target hit!

We're now good to go and everyone's getting some new figures!

This is where the fun starts now and we can add some extra items to the ranges:

At £3500 - We'll add the limbers to each range.   UNLOCKED and available to add to your pledge!

At £4000 - We'll add a pack of generic Napoleonic civilians to the range and add one as a freebie to every order.   UNLOCKED and added to all orders of 5 packs or more!

At £4500 - We'll add flags for each state to the ranges.  Anyone who's ordered at least 5 packs from any state will receive a free set of flags for that same state.

At £5000 - We'll add casualty figures to all of our Naps ranges.

Let's keep the pledges going and see what extras we can add!


The ranges:

Hesse Darmstadt
NHD1    Line/fusilier, march attack   £5.25
NHD2    Line/fusilier, firing line   £5.25
NHD3    Line/fusilier command   £5.25
NHD4    Mounted officers (5)    £1.75
NHD5    Chevaux-Legers   £5.25
NHD6    6pdr guns (Nap Austrian) with crew (3)   £5.25
NHD7    7" Howitzers (Nap Austrian) with crew (3)   £5.25
NHD8    Limber with team (2)    £5.25
PNFL514    Hesse-Darmstadt flagsheet     £2.50


Saxony
NSA1    Line infantry, march attack   £5.25
NSA2    Line infantry, firing line   £5.25
NSA3    Line command   £5.25
NSA4    Grenadiers, march attack, inc. command (16)   £2.80
NSA5    Leib Grenadiers, inc. command   £5.25
NSA6    Schutzen, march attack, inc. command (16)   £2.80
NSA7    Schutzen, firing, inc. command (16)   £2.80
NSA8    Mounted officers (5)    £1.75
NSA9    Light cavalry   £5.25
NSA10  Heavy cavalry   £5.25
NSA11  Hussars   £5.25
NSA12  6pdr guns (SYW) with crew (3)   £5.25
NSA13  7" Howitzers (SYW) with crew (3)   £5.25
NSA14   Limber with team (2)    £5.25
PNFL515    Saxony flagsheet     £2.50

Duchy of Warsaw
NDW1    Line/fusiliers, march attack (czapska)   £5.25
NDW2    Line/fusiliers, firing line (czapska)   £5.25
NDW3    Line/fusiliers command (czapska)   £5.25
NDW4    Line Elites (Volt/Gren), march attack (16) (czapska)   £2.80
NDW5    Line Elites (Volt/Gren), firing line (16) (czapska)   £2.80
NDW6    Line Elites (Grenadier), march attack (16) (bearskin)   £2.80
NDW7    Mounted officer (5)    £1.75
NDW8    Uhlans   £5.25
NDW9    Uhlan Elites (8 )    £2.80
NDW10  6pdr (SYW) with foot crew (3)   £5.25
NDW11  6pdr (SYW) with horse crew (3)   £5.25
NDW12  7" Howitzer (SYW) with foot crew (3)   £5.25
NDW13  7" Howitzer (SYW) with horse crew (3)   £5.25
NDW14  Limber with team (2)    £5.25
PNFL516    Duchy of Warsaw flagsheet     £2.50


Wurttemberg
NWU1    Line/fusilier, march attack   £5.25
NWU2    Line/fusilier, firing line   £5.25
NWU3    Line/fusilier command   £5.25
NWU4    Leichtes, inc. command   £5.25
NWU5    Mounted officers (5)   £1.75
NWU6    Grenadiers(16)   £2.80
NWU7    Jager, inc. command   £5.25
NWU8    Chevaux-Leger   £5.25
NWU9    Jager zu Pferd   £5.25
NWU10  6pdr guns (Nap Austrian) with crew   £5.25
NWU11  12pdr guns (Nap Austrian) with crew   £5.25
NWU12  7pdr Howitzers (Nap Austrian) with crew   £5.25
NWU13  Limber with team (2)    £5.25
PNFL517    Wurttemberg flagsheet     £2.50

NPX2    Civilians (30)     £5.25

All packs contain 15 cavalry or 30 foot, priced at £5.25 per pack, unless otherwise stated.


So, that's everything.  If there are any questions, just let us know and we'll get them answered.  And of course, please spread this around anyone that you think might be interested in these ranges and push them this way.  The more interest and purchases that we can get, the more chance that these figures will reach production!


Pledges so far:

£1080.65 - Zippee (limbers included now!)
£117.35 - Shecky
£33.60  - sultanbev
£300.00 - SandyFalkirk
£188.30 - Jesus
£54.30   - Ben Waterhouse
£77.75   - kustenjaeger
£100.00 - Matt J
£202.05 - fsn
£202.65 - arjackie
£68.95   - Leon026
£210.00 - WeeWars
£114.10 - grahambeyrout
£662.20 - aleeper21
£33.95   - loupdemer
£117.95 - Scolty
£61.95   - rikster72
£122.15 - coleman16
£106.10 - DerehamBob
£58.95   - Vincer2
£72.80   - dimmy
£113.05 - quasar42
£10.50   - kabrank
£25.55   - Forez42
£73.20   - Hammerjock
£53.20   - Baron Snake-eyes

£4261.25 Total!!!
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Zippee

09 October 2018, 10:22:38 PM #1 Last Edit: 09 October 2018, 10:25:58 PM by Zippee
Hi Leon,

as discussed my pledge will amount to the following, hopefully that will get the ball rolling.

Saxony: 1200 infantry; 180 cavalry; 24 guns (plus crew); 12 limbers
Wurttemberg: 800 infantry; 80 cavalry; 19 guns (plus crew); 8 limbers
Hesse: 400 infantry; 20 cavalry; 6 guns (plus crew); 4 limbers
Baden: 350 infantry; 40 cavalry; 9 guns (plus crew); 4 limbers
Warsaw: 820 infantry; 150 cavalry; 15 guns (plus crew); 6 limbers

And if that needs a boost I'd be happy to add an Italian ally using the existing French range: 760 infantry; 80 cavalry; 30 guns (plus crew); 8 limbers

Oh and a bunch of those wurst 6pdrs of course 😊

Leon

Excellent, that kicks things off in quite the style!  That lot comes to £900 for the current lists, hopefully we'll get enough pledged to add limbers to each of the ranges as well.  I've left the Italians off for now and we'll see if we need those to get us over the line.

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Shecky

10 October 2018, 12:03:15 AM #3 Last Edit: 31 October 2018, 01:14:07 PM by Leon
To start off with:

2x NSA1
1x NSA2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14
PNFL515

2x NDW1
1x NDW2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14
PNFL516

I'm building forces for Et Sans Resultat so these should fit in nicely.

Shecky

I'd also do a similar order for Italians if those get done.

Leon

Quote from: Shecky on 10 October 2018, 12:03:15 AM
2x NSA1
1x NSA2 - NSA9

2x NDW1
1x NDW2 - NDW9

Excellent, all added!

Quote from: Shecky on 10 October 2018, 12:10:57 AM
I'd also do a similar order for Italians if those get done.

There's no plans for Italians I'm afraid, but you can use the existing French as Zippee's going to do?
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fsn

Dammit! I'm never going to get the Korean War finished.

A question. Will the jaegers etc be in "skirmishing" poses? e.g. NWU7.

Also could someone remind me what the Warsaw headgear was at this time? I'm away from my reference books and can't remember.
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jaztez

Absolutely brilliant idea!

No idea how you'll get that sculpted and to production in four months mind you!

Leon - if this is a success, could we suggest other ranges to expand with 50% up front input?

I would certainly invest in WW1 East Africa and Italian Wars expansion.

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Leon

Quote from: fsn on 10 October 2018, 07:43:15 AM
A question. Will the jaegers etc be in "skirmishing" poses? e.g. NWU7.

Yep, probably something similar to the Austrian ones:




Quote from: fsn on 10 October 2018, 07:43:15 AM
Also could someone remind me what the Warsaw headgear was at this time? I'm away from my reference books and can't remember.

I've got czapska on the info that Zippee put together for us.


Quote from: jaztez on 10 October 2018, 11:09:02 AM
No idea how you'll get that sculpted and to production in four months mind you!

Leon - if this is a success, could we suggest other ranges to expand with 50% up front input?

I would certainly invest in WW1 East Africa and Italian Wars expansion.

We've got the sculptor on standby so he's raring to go.  We'll probably get him to send us each state as it's completed and then we can be getting on with the moulding while he's sculpting the next one. 

On future projects, the honest answer is I don't know.  It all depend on how well this one goes really.  Some of the recent releases haven't hit the ground running as much as they used to do, so this method allows us to 'test the water' a lot better and make sure there's a demand for what we're producing.

The East Africa range isn't a big area for either sales or requests so I wouldn't see that one being a priority unless we got some serious interest in it.  The Italian Wars has come up fairly regularly though and could be a candidate.
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fsn

Quote from: Leon on 10 October 2018, 12:20:46 PM
Yep, probably something similar to the Austrian ones:
Oh dear.

Quote from: Leon on 10 October 2018, 12:20:46 PM
I've got czapska on the info that Zippee put together for us.
Dammit. That makes them interesting.

I can see some reference book and spreadsheet work in my weekend.  :D
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jaztez

"The Italian Wars has come up fairly regularly though and could be a candidate."

Well I'm doing 10mm Italian wars in the new year, so I would be in with a few hundred quid.

Good luck Napoleonic guys!
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Leon

Quote from: fsn on 10 October 2018, 12:34:19 PM
Oh dear.

We can swap that kneeling pose if you like, something more like the 1860 Austrian ones:



Quote from: jaztez on 10 October 2018, 12:49:58 PM
Well I'm doing 10mm Italian wars in the new year, so I would be in with a few hundred quid.

I don't think we'd be doing anything that quick!  If we go for another project, it'd likely be 12 month's time or so, towards the end of 2019.
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fsn

Quote from: Leon on 10 October 2018, 01:05:37 PM
We can swap that kneeling pose if you like, something more like the 1860 Austrian ones:
That would be most appreciated.
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