Some questions that come up on another read through of the book

[OldenBUA]

Now ifthe ability on page 67 read "tactical move action" i would agree.

Fair enough. Doesn't make sense as written. Should be 'tactical move' in my opinion. And quite a few units that are now lumbering shouldn't have it applied to them. Slow moving plus the vagaries of the command system means that units are pretty slow anyway.

I also think that for some of the units the whole deploy then fire, and deploy then move can be a bit much.

[petercooman]

Indeed. Especially for mg teams!

[Dr Dave]

Lumbering Matildas will also be outstripped by men on foot!

But, we are all discussing a set of rules that the publishers have acknowledged are broken, not fit to use and are going to replace. All that needs to happen now is a diligent team need to spot all the mistakes.  ŵ

[williamb]

"Lumbering Matildas"!  Sounds like the title to a song

[Dr Dave]

 

[toxicpixie]

"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome on stage the Lumbering Matilda's and their hit song Every German Tank is a Tiger!"

[Dr Dave]

don't make fun of my Matildas! 

[OldenBUA]

If you look at the bit about ground scale and time scale, it seems that a lumbering vehicle with a move of 15cm can manage about 1.2 km / hour (less than 1 mph). And that's​being generous, could be even less.

I know there were some slow vehicles, but not that slow.

[petercooman]

Yeah lumbering really is an unnecessary addition IMHO.

It slows the game down, and at the meantime provides a huge advantage to a Defender.
It would seem that the lumbering special rule brings the points of an anti tank gun WAY down. In a defence an anti tank gun that is in a prime position and who doesn't need to move will be as potent as it used to be at a quarter of the price in points!

[williamb]

don't make fun of my Matildas! 

Actually poking fun at the special rule that shouldn't be.  Or is that the special rule which should not be named?

[Dr Dave]

The "special rule that shouldn't be". Which one exactly? 

[williamb]

Could be a Monty Python skit.   Oh, I'm a lumbering and that's okay, I don;t move far and sleep all day.

[Ithoriel]

"Who'd take Matildas? Who'd take Matildas?
Who'd take a Char B or KV too?
"Lumbering" is bollox,
Little better than a pillbox,
I think we can fix this, I really do!

[fsn]

 

Gentlemen, we have our new Kipling!

I like a Matilda. Especially against Pz I, II and the Czech stuff - the majority of Pz Divs in 1940. 




Do you like Kipling?
I don't know, I've never Kippled.
Goon Show, 1965