Warmaster Empire

Started by Tiberius, 25 October 2015, 10:01:38 PM

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fred.

I'm totally wrong about the size of the Whippet, its actually fairly small compared with the GW model. But I do think the Holt tractor might make a very good base, especially with its small front wheel.



The canvas cover is a separate piece so can easily be left off. As is the large front radiator and the crewman.
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Quote from: fred. on 26 October 2015, 11:03:55 PM
I'm totally wrong about the size of the Whippet, its actually fairly small compared with the GW model. But I do think the Holt tractor might make a very good base, especially with its small front wheel.

The canvas cover is a separate piece so can easily be left off. As is the large front radiator and the crewman.

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Quote from: fred. on 26 October 2015, 10:54:32 PM
Some very cool ideas.

The Empire steam tank is actually wheeled not tracked. But don't let that stop the imagination. The holt tractor might work well, especially as it already has a funnel.

The wippet model would be a great base, but might be a bit big for a 20x40mm WM base. I'll dig one of mine out in a bit.

I think I will have a rummage through the bits box tomorrow and see if I can scratch build the d**n thing.
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Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 26 October 2015, 09:29:37 PM

The Char 2C is a monster, don't have a pic with figures but this real life one gives a good idea of scale to humans:-


That Char 2C is impressive!  Does a 10mm model of it exist?  Couldn't find it on the Pendraken Site.

Quote from: fred. on 26 October 2015, 11:03:55 PM
I'm totally wrong about the size of the Whippet, its actually fairly small compared with the GW model. But I do think the Holt tractor might make a very good base, especially with its small front wheel.


I'd hate to see how small my little FT compares with the GW behemoth!  Thankfully it may very well never meet one in real life.

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Quote from: Tiberius on 27 October 2015, 02:08:34 AM
That Char 2C is impressive!  Does a 10mm model of it exist?  Couldn't find it on the Pendraken Site.


Yes, it's right there in WW2 French http://www.pendraken.co.uk/FRE11-p6281/



There's also a T35 available from another supplier, and the Vickers Independent, Type 91 Heavy Tank and Neubaufahrzeug available from Fairy Kikaku in resin.

And we have been threatened with a Ratte and Maus as well



We're actually pretty well off for large tanks in 10mm/12mm.

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fred.

Quote from: Tiberius on 27 October 2015, 02:08:34 AM
I'd hate to see how small my little FT compares with the GW behemoth!  Thankfully it may very well never meet one in real life.

I wouldn't worry about the size, your model absolutely captures the look and feel of the steam tank.
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So as I look towards other models I will be adding to my collection, I wonder what would be the best models substitute for Empire Skirmishers.  I've never seen the models in person and none of the pictures I've seen are that up close, so I don't even know what I'm looking for.

Also, my bases at the moment are just warhammer 20x20mm bases held together with green stuff.  I have found some other bases online, like the litko and minibits ones, but I was wondering the thickness of genuine warmaster bases, so i can try to at least come close.

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Quote from: Tiberius on 29 October 2015, 07:13:07 PM
So as I look towards other models I will be adding to my collection, I wonder what would be the best models substitute for Empire Skirmishers.  I've never seen the models in person and none of the pictures I've seen are that up close, so I don't even know what I'm looking for.

Also, my bases at the moment are just warhammer 20x20mm bases held together with green stuff.  I have found some other bases online, like the litko and minibits ones, but I was wondering the thickness of genuine warmaster bases, so i can try to at least come close.

Bases first, the Minibits ones aren't too far off the plastic WM ones. I use both together quite happily.

The three different Warmaster skirmisher models I have are a mix of sword and pistol, sword and buckler and (iirc) one with two-handed sword and one with two longswords. No exactly equivalent figures in the Pendraken ranges, that I'm aware of, but it's more important that they are identifiable than that they exactly mimic the GW ones IMHO. I'd use half-a-dozen arquebusiers in a skirmish line per stand, if it were me.

Closest real world units are probably the sword & buckler men used by the Spanish in the first quarter of the 1500s
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Skirmishers: The GW figures have a mix of melee weapons, bucklers and pistols.



In WM terms they are melee troops, not shooting troops. And they add more combat attacks to units of halberdiers when attached to them. I'd definitely go for fairly loose order basing, with not too many figures on a base. Sword and Buckler men would work, as might the Landschkent two handed swordsmen. I don't think there are any pistol armed infantry in the pendraken catalogue.

Bases
Yep Minibits MDF ones are great, a touch thicker than plastic bases, but a lot thinner than the 28mm slotta bases you are currently using.
If you really want plastic have a look at Renedra.
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I just finished my first unit of knights.



Here is my tiny Warmaster Army thus far!



Next is Pistoliers, which I'm used the ECW helmeted Calvary.  I just need to make a couple more feathers for the 12 man unit, and sculpt a green stuff banner, then I will start painting.  Here is the command so far.



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Quote from: Tiberius on 31 October 2015, 07:56:22 PM

Next is Pistoliers, which I'm used the ECW helmeted Calvary.  I just need to make a couple more feathers for the 12 man unit, and sculpt a green stuff banner, then I will start painting.  Here is the command so far.



Your 'green stuff' feathers are so much nice than my 'milliput' ones on my 'ersatz Empire knights'.

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Nice work on the feathers, they look very good, and really give the Empire look to the figures.

The ECW figures work well for pistolliers - probably better than the LoA ones as they have a bit more armour.
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That's crackin work with the green stuff! Really good :)
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