New WWII and Modern vehicles released!

Started by Leon, 28 August 2015, 12:19:28 AM

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barbarian

I want ultramodern.  :d :'( :d :'(
If you do the vehicles, I'll do the infantry.
(I started a M2 Bradley IFV, I stopped in front of the sheer load of work to detail everything)
I'm even considering buying a 28mm model, please save me.
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Quote from: Chad on 02 September 2015, 08:50:42 PM
I think the expression you are looking for is:

"You can't take him anywhere but twice. Second time to apologise." 😁

In his case you cant take him twice - they wont accept the apology.

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Sunray

Quote from: mart678 on 02 September 2015, 06:17:11 PM
Glad you like the Conqueor and Panther the early and late cupola's are missing from the pictures and I did the spare track separate so you can stick it where you want and side skirts
Just to answer a few questions

1 the Conqueror came before the M41 and M551 because its British  :D :D

Martin

Well, there you go.  Who needs a business plan based on market research and customer demand when good old honest patriotism  will swing a sale? 

Sounds familiar ....like British Layland marketing strategy circa 1970s.   

On that basis the Ferret is also British, and was a very useful AFV.   Ideal for tabletop skirmish.

mart678

The Bradley M2/3 will be there with M1, M1A1 Challenger1 and 2 and the Leopard 2

Sunray

Now that is a quantum leap into the 1990s/early 21st century.  These are 'modern' items in any army list - most of this kit is not in CWC as it is post-cold war.

Two observations if I may:

First, we do not have a coherent sense of 'range'.   Individual models/figures sell better when part of a range.  Are we simply going to have an odd ball collection of "post war" kit spanning from 1956 (Conqueror) to the 1990s  (Abrams) that cannot share the same table? 

Secondly, we are seriously short of modern infantry figures. The sculpts by Techno of Falklands British and Argentine infantry are superb, but are time bound to the era of the 7,62 SLR/FN rifle.   If all this hardware from the late 20th century is produced, then Pendraken needs appropriate infantry to compliment them- Brits with SA80s - or even L85A2 , US infantry in Fritz with M16A4,and " Red forces with AK74. 

If these issues are not addressed , Pendraken is simply creating sales for other 10mm/12mm manufactures who have the figures for the ranges.

Rob

Quote from: mart678 on 04 September 2015, 01:06:00 PM
The Bradley M2/3 will be there with M1, M1A1 Challenger1 and 2 and the Leopard 2
Excellent!  :)

You are a tease.  ;D I'll wager these won't appear for years.  :'(

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So long as it's before the Aztecs...

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Quote from: Sunray on 05 September 2015, 09:59:38 AM
First, we do not have a coherent sense of 'range'.   Individual models/figures sell better when part of a range.  Are we simply going to have an odd ball collection of "post war" kit spanning from 1956 (Conqueror) to the 1990s  (Abrams) that cannot share the same table? 
This is lifted from the contents list of my modern army lists "East V West and Policeman of the World". It contains real wars and imagi-wars or what-if/easy-could-have-happened wars:
Section 1 Allies Argue 1946-1950
Section 2 THE KOREAN WAR   
Section 3 THE VIETNAM CONFLICT 1946 – 1974   
Section 3 1962 – 1965 "We will give it 15 or 20 years and then go again" – (Iosif Stalin in 1945)   
Section 4 THE 1967 – 1988 MIDDLE EAST CONFLICTS   
Section 5 1973 – 1975 "Grasping the Opportunity, a Strike During the Oil Crisis"   
Section 6 THE COLD WAR TURNS HOT 1980-85   
1. Group of Soviet Forces in Germany 1980-5   
2. Allied Warsaw Pact or Second Line Soviet Forces 1980-5   
3. British Army on the Rhine 1980-5   
3. West German Army 1980-5
Section 7 THE COLD WAR ENDS DIFFERENTLY 1989
Section 8 THE 1991 – 2003 IRAQ   
Section 9 ARMEGEDDON 2010   

Section 6 is the only one I have completed although I have the raw material for nearly all of the others. I do this because I like to be organised before I buy. I was about to spend a fortune on minifigs for the 1980-85 period but they never came up with British infantry and then I found some Can-Do Challengers and Warrior vehicles that were not mixable. Net result is I did nothing but the lists. I'll do the others as required.

I am not saying ranges should be grouped in this way but it does show how easy it would be to group them.

Cheers, Rob  :)


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05 September 2015, 11:26:02 AM #54 Last Edit: 05 September 2015, 08:41:08 PM by Techno
Armageddon 2010, must have missed that, is it available on iPlayer? ;)

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Quote from: ianrs54 on 05 September 2015, 11:13:27 AM
So long as it's before the Aztecs...

IanS

Can't we arrange an intervention or something for this poor, sad man?
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Being serious -

on the last proper post -

Section 1 is just about covered - you need the M46, which is just a new hull for the M26 turret, rest is planned or mastered.
Section 2 - apart from Chinese Infantry this again is covered, again apart from some odd vehicles
Section 3(1) - mostly already done
Section 3(2) and 4 and 5 - this is all the same gear - honest. Plus much of it is in the 50's section.


So no where near as much as people think.

Can someone send FSN's doc to Lemmey.

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Quote from: mad lemmey on 05 September 2015, 11:26:02 AM
Armageddon 2010, must have missed that, is it available on iPlayer? ;)

Can't see it.

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Quote from: mad lemmey on 05 September 2015, 11:26:02 AM
Armageddon 2010, must have missed that, is it available on iPlayer? ;)
Can the moderator give this poster a slap?  :P

Leon

Quote from: Sunray on 05 September 2015, 09:59:38 AM
Secondly, we are seriously short of modern infantry figures. The sculpts by Techno of Falklands British and Argentine infantry are superb, but are time bound to the era of the 7,62 SLR/FN rifle.   If all this hardware from the late 20th century is produced, then Pendraken needs appropriate infantry to compliment them- Brits with SA80s - or even L85A2 , US infantry in Fritz with M16A4,and " Red forces with AK74. 

Just on this point, I've said a few times that the vehicles are the time-consuming aspect of any range.  The time to make the models themselves and then getting them moulded separately in low-temp moulds is a long process, so it's better to concentrate on the vehicles until we've got a good base and then infantry can be done in a matter of months.  If we did all the infantry now then we'd have a lot of people buying them and asking for more vehicles, so it's a double edged sword.

Also, Techno will be doing the other modern infantry I think, but he's too busy with all the Warband stuff to do any other projects at the moment.
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