10mm or 15mm?

[Fenton]

Of the three manufacturers, I decided upon Pendraken as my main (and hopefully only) supplier. This was a decision based upon price, service and because the Pendraken Churchill looked the best. It was blocky, stocky and menacing. The Pithead Churchill was equally brutish, but (as a personal opinion) the Magister Militum Churchill seemed a little too elegant.

And that Pendraken didnt ban him from the forum after his  first couple of posts

[fsn]

And that Pendraken didnt ban him from the forum after his  first couple of posts

There is that. 

[jchaos79]

I am in 10mm, and I only could recommend it.

If it good for me, I wish it for you.

[getagrip]

I am in 10mm, and I only could recommend it.

If it good for me, I wish it for you.

Perfectly put!

[Vamboozle]

Just stepped down from 15mm to 10mm (started considering it about 6 months ago and jumped about  a month ago)

Have to say pleased with the decision

More metal for your money, the pendraken sculpts are as good as any 15mm I've seen and probably most importantly my hobby is now taking up a lot less room which is popular with Mrs V (at least until she realised smaller means more  )

If you go ECW, the pendraken range is good and the To Defy a King rules seem interesting. 

And as everyone has said you are hardly likely to get a balanced opinion here 

[Westmarcher]

Hi, Cudders. I assume you are not thinking in terms of skirmish 1:1 wargaming when I make the following comment.

In addition to the above experience and advice, another factor to consider is what your will your plans be for your 6mm buildings & terrain. I switched from 6mm many years ago. I now have 10mm and 15mm (if Pendraken's Napoleonic and new ACW ranges had been released earlier, I may have been wholly in 10mm).

Loads of gamers are now using lower scale or 'shrunken footprint' buildings for their minis because of the ground scale issues associated with the representation of built-up areas alongside war-games units.  I still have my 6mm terrain and these work well with my 10mm but, for my tastes, not so well with the 15mm.  The result is that I now have both 6mm and 15mm buildings but, ideally, I would like to have one scale, 10mm of course, because I know they will work well with both my 10 and 15mm.

If you choose 10mm, you will end up painting more minis (but in slightly less detail) than you would in 15mm. But you will have the mass effect you liked in 6mm more quickly and cheaply than in 15mm and, if you keep your 6mm buildings (at least in the short term), you won't have to waste time, money and effort re-equiping with larger scale buildings and terrain.

 

[cudders]

Hi all,

Your all clearly mad!

Yes I am used to painting 6mm or rather Adlers. I guess 10mm will be a little easier as the eyes are definately not as good as they once were!

Here's a couple of units I did quite a few years ago.





Look forward to meeting the Pendraken gods at Triples!

Cudders

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Very nice.

[Leman]

I would definitely go for 15mm - they're bigger, so have much more detail to paint on; they're bigger so you can spend much more time painting them; they're bigger so you will need more paint, which means you can spend much more money on paint more often; they're bigger so you can spend much more time painting and a lot less wasted time playing with the damn things.

[getagrip]

They're lovely Cudders 

[toxicpixie]

Very tasty! You should do great justice to 10mm with that quality of painting

[Westmarcher]

Very nice paint job, Cudders. On that evidence you will have no trouble making the transition. I would love to be able to paint my own 10 and 15mm so well.   

Adler are nice wee figures but the fatal flaw for me is the "Mighty Mouse" look - whilst the soldiers' body sculpts are very good (but more 8mm than 6mm?), the heads are more 15mm than 6mm.*  You'll definitely get a better overall sculpt with the likes of Pendraken.


* yet, curiously, the horses heads are more in proportion to their bodies - weird!

[cudders]

Pendraken is expanding their Napoleonics range, a quick couple of links here:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10941.0.html

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11762.0.html

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9483.0.html

The reason I would go for 10mm over 15mm is as follows.

- With 15mm you have to keep diving in and out of different manufacturers, this may sound OK but you can end up with with figures ranging from 12mm - 18mm, some are stocky and thick set and some are lean and like beanpoles, it is just difficult to find manufacturers whose ranges constantly gel together (IMO).  There is of course a caveat to this, AB miniatures for example are glorious figures - but I hope you have finished paying off your mortgage.  

- 10mm produces the larger figure units, most probably you liked 6mm because you could produce a block of figures that actually looked like a unit, something that diminishes with increased size.  Well 10mm is the inbetween, you can ratio the number of figures so that they actually look more like massed units far more than 15mm does (and of course far better than 28mm does).

- Affordability.  This to many is not a good reason to choose a scale, but I personally think it is one of the most important and especially if you plan to cover several periods and a wide range of forces within those periods.  Here 10mm Pendraken by far exceeds the lower end of the 15mm priced ranges in quality.

- Growing ranges.  Pendraken 10mm is expanding its ranges, what is more is that they seem to be following a policy of resculpting old ranges.

- Of course if you are wargaming then table size for battles also comes in to play, 10mm requires a smaller table size than a corresponding 15mm battle does.

Just a few thoughts that led me to Pendraken at the beginning of this year, and I have not been disappointed at all.  

Of course we all look on things differently and none of us are either right or wrong in our own preferences compared to other peoples, but I like the detail of Pendraken, the community on here is superb (now watch everyone take the fun out of me for saying that   ), and of course the service provided is second to none IMO (now I will really get ribbed    ).  

 

Wow those Naps do look good!

I'm am leaning towards 10mm for sure.

Cudders

[cudders]

Thanks for the kind words guys.

It was quite sometime ago I painted those. Had my eyes lazered over 15 years back but they have started to move now so hence the need to upscale for painting etc.

Cudders.

[Redstef]

 Although it could be cheaper to go 10mm instead of 15mm i doubt it will be. The tendency is to use more figures on the base. This, in my opinion is the best bit. The mass effect of a 6mm army but with the opportunity to put a relatively detailed paint job on. I also have a large collection of Adler Naps (which I like) and if Pendraken had a Nap range when I started i probably would have a 10mm Nap collection now instead (still might...damn you).

As far as where to get these 10mm figures, without wanting to sound like too much of a fanboy, you can't go wrong with the Pendraken ranges (if that doesn't move the LoA Dragoons to the top of the list i don't know what will..  )