SYW Austrian Generals

[DHautpol]

Gentlemen,
I am hoping that someone will have a reference in answer to a question I have regarding the uniforms worn by SYW Austrian generals; in particular, cavalry generals excluding any hussar generals.

Both Summerfield and Kronoskaf are in agreement regarding the uniforms:
Feldmarschall (FM)  Wavy gold lace on front of coat (no lapels) and on cuffs and pockets.
Feldzeugmeister (FZM) (General of Infantry)  One broad straight gold lace and one narrow straight gold lace on front of coat and lapels, three broad straight gold lace on cuffs and two broad and two narrow straight gold laces on pockets.
General de Cavallerie (GdC) (General of Cavalry)  One broad straight gold lace and one narrow straight gold lace on front of coat (no lapels), three broad straight gold lace on cuffs and two broad and two narrow straight gold laces on pockets.
Feldmarshall Lieutenant (FML) (Lieutenant General)  One broad straight gold lace on front of coat and lapels, two broad straight gold lace on cuffs and three broad straight gold lace on pockets.
General Feldwachtmeister (GFWM) (Major General)  One narrow gold lace on front of coat and lapels, one narrow straight gold lace on cuffs and pockets.

So FMs and GdCs had no lapels.  We can ignore probably FMs as being a rank commanding all arms.  However, full Generals of Infantry and Cavalry wore similar lace but the GdC were distinguishable by having no lapels.

My question is did the FMLs and GFWMs who commanded cavalry formations wear the same coats as their infantry counterparts or were they also distinguishable by having no lapels?

Nafziger's OOB for Leuthen shows GdC Graf Serbelloni having FML Prinz Hohenzollern and GM (GFWM) Carl Stampach under his command.

[Westmarcher]

Setting a precedent perhaps for all Austrian cavalry commanders, if you refer back to the Personalities section of Kronoskaf, you'll see a portrait of Austrian Feldmarschall Lieutenant Hadik in 1757 which shows what appears to be him wearing a Hussar version of the general's uniform.

[DHautpol]

Thanks for the suggestion.

Although I was familiar with the portrait of Hadik, I had discounted him as his career looks to have been primarily associated with the Kleinkrieg with hussars and light infantry.

However, you did prompt me to look through all the other personalities on the Austria list. Most of the portraits show the individuals later in their careers when they had achieved more exalted ranks than during the SYW.  But I did alight on Jean-Antoine-Joseph, Comte de Saint-Ignon. He appears to have spent his entire career as a cavalryman having entered the Saint-Ignon Kuirassiers (possibly an uncle as he married his cousin named Marie-Appoline de Saint-Ignon).

The portrait is dated as 1762 when he was still GFWM and depicts him in a coat with the appropriate lace for a GFWM, but with no lapels.  It would be bizarre to think that FMLs would have lapels if GFWMs and GdCs did not, so I think this can be taken as a strong indication that Austrian cavalry generals did not wear lapels on their coats.

[Westmarcher]

That was my conclusion, too. There's also an illustration by the 19th century artist, Ottenfeld, on the Austrian Grand Staff page in Kronoskaf showing a General de Cavalerie on the right and a Feldwachtmeister on the left.

[DHautpol]

Yes, it's a nice illustration, but it highlights my point. Both Summerfield and Kronoskaf show a GdC coat with no lapels, but both are silent on cavalry FMLs and GFWMs and just show the infantry generals' version. 

[Westmarcher]

Subject to the fashion foibles of individual generals (where there are numerous examples throughout history), I like to look on the 'silence' and the General de Cavalrie example as a positive (i.e., where is the evidence to contradict?), and giving affirmation to the view that Austrian cavalry generals' uniform versions were likely to be no different to infantry generals' in terms of lapels, etc.