Hearts of Oak (well MDF...)

Started by Last Hussar, 09 January 2019, 08:57:05 PM

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Last Hussar

I've decided to blame you lot.

I reckon I can do a Leipzig Prussian army in LWM for under £30.

Under £60 (possibly £50) for a cover all possibilities Blucher army.

 :(
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Orcs

Quote from: Last Hussar on 13 December 2024, 12:08:52 PMI've decided to blame you lot.

I reckon I can do a Leipzig Prussian army in LWM for under £30.

Under £60 (possibly £50) for a cover all possibilities Blucher army.

 :(

You see sense at last.  :)
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sunjester

Quote from: Orcs on 13 December 2024, 12:13:59 PMYou see sense at last.  :)

Not a concept I usually associate with Orcs.

Last Hussar

That's why there is a Mrs Orcs.
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steve_holmes_11

I keep looking at this range.
Then I flip between:
 * I'm gonna have the biggest ever army for almost zero cost.
 * I'm gonna totally hate painting these.

The second wolf is winning.

Last Hussar

They are easy and quick to paint.
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Last Hussar

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Last Hussar

Steve, here's the thing;

Would I rather do these in 10mm. Yes, yes I would.

Can I AFFORD to do them in 10mm; well, there is the question.

I could put together an army, but it would have to be built to a pretty restrictive list. With the the LWM I have got a lot of variants.

Plus, and thus is a big plus for me, it is really easy to paint masses. You are basically painting stripes.
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steve_holmes_11

They look fabulous, really good en-masse and painted.
Combined with your movement trays it's a fantastic looking collection.

My own reticence probably reflects having two existing 6mm armies of around 2,000 figures each.
I doubt whether the MDF figures would blend in with those.

The remaining opportunity for me is if I decide to collect ACW armies.

fred.

These do look good - tbh much better than I expected!

They really work well for the large Blucher bases.

A couple of suggestions, paint the movement trays, especially the ones for the commanders. And have you thought about using the little dice frames for keeping the shock dice in position?
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Last Hussar

Steve, no they are too tall for 6mm. They are more like 8mm.

Fred, the movement trays are unpainted on purpose.  If I paint the trays,  I'd really need to be flocking the bases. The problem is they are very noticeable as flat, but a 2mm, thick flat. You can't hide this.the cavalry bases especially; head on the look like a vegetable slicer!

If I leave the bases unflocked, then the noticeablity of the trays is not really a thing; the flat green bases are already suspension of disbelief breaking.

What I decided was a "brandy and cigars" look - like beer and pretzels,  but dammit we're British!

The frames are actually glued on upside-down; the laser burn gives a richness the plain mdf doesn't have.
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steve_holmes_11

These clearly wont have the same aesthetics as full rounded casts.

I've tended to look at them a bit like the (very) old flats.
My impression is that flats require a lot more artistry than blobbing or washing a 3d figure.

Perhaps a better comparison is with the toy soldier type collections.
There was a brief burst of these in my corner of the Internet.
Big figures, typically 42mmm with a gloss finish, rosy cheeks (optional), almost all marching, on bright gloss green bases.
Proper aficionados completed the effect with wooden block styled scenery.

I observe that ready printed perspex? flats are now a thing.
Ready to roll.

Last Hussar

I looked that 'Yo Flats!', or whatever they are called. Trouble is the price. And they are FLAT. The LWM are 2mm thick, so there is some depth.

Sunjester and I agree on the 'Three foot' or 'Arms length' rule;

That is, when a unit is held at arms length - the distance you are looking at on the table - does it look alright? Some people here paint absolutely beautiful figures, but 1) I can't do that, and 2) how much difference is there at arms length? and 3) I just don't have the concentration when painting - I hate painting figures.

And, has been mentioned on this thread before, 'Quantity has a quality all its own'; My Russian units for Blucher are 4 stands in 2x2, each stand is 2 lines of 7, with 2 men behind (approximately behind '2' and '6' - the strips are 8 figures long, but a 40mm base only takes 7). So my Russians are 64 figures a unit! Less with the French - one base is replaced a 4 man skirmish base to show 'Skirmish' ability.

Taken to the extremes with Austrian 'Avant Garde' units - of the 4 bases on a unit; 1 Infantry, 1 Skirmish, 1 Horse (6 figures, for 'Mixed') and 1 Gun.

I played #1Son a week ago at Black Powder, where the figures were used in a more traditional wargame way. The Russian units were 'Large' so had 4 bases in a line - 64 figures, with a frontage of 28, on 160mm (just over 6 inches for the Old People here). THAT looks like a line, more than 12 large figures.

This is what I had 6 years ago for the French - I've added to this since then

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lasthussar/48224125276/in/album-72157675414083037
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Last Hussar

If I'm putting together a Prussian Army might as well make it suitable for early war (pre-1813).

What would be a good battle to base on? - I've got Leipzig for 1813.
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