I don't need another project ... but 1929?

Started by fsn, 21 February 2023, 10:06:28 AM

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fsn

    I don't need another project.

    I am firmly onto the Ottoman Napoleonics, but, and I'm just thinking here, what about 1928?

    Hear me out. I like Imagi-Nations. I have a lovely 1960s "somewhere is a desert" scenario where the Centurion can roam with her big sister the Conqueror and take on M48s and T54s and Panhards. I have in the back of my mind a "Chocolate Box" of late Victorians when scarlet clad British take on kepi-wearing French and
Prussians Germans and Austro-Hungarians etc etc.

Increasingly, I am distracted by photographs from the 1920s. Tank warfare is undergoing a revolution in ideas, impacted by severe economic pressures and yet the dangers of Fascism have not yet become realised. What I'm looking for are things that scream 1920s. Preferably things that didn't fight in the World Wards.   

I mean ... things like this


OK. So we can reasonably create a British force, but who to fight? Too early for the Germans, PzI didn't start until 1932. The Soviets hadn't really got their tankness of the ground. The Americans?  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  so it's got to be the French.




Big question then, is how can we do this with Pendraken goodliness? I will assume we'll use WWI trucks. I'm also going to ignore cavalry.

For the British
  • Infantry: we could use the early WWI figures for the chaps in caps, or the later war figures  if you want helmets.
  • Light tank: Vickers 6 Tonner (1928 so we can squeeze it in)
  • Medium tank: Vickers Medium (1925)
  • Self Propelled Gun: Birch Gun (1924)
  • Armoured Car: Rolls Royce armoured car (WWI)
  • Artillery: 18pdr Gun

Very do-able. What's missing for the real 1929 feel is a Carden-LLoyd Tankette.

For the French, the picking are slightly thinner.

  • Infantry: Late WWI or even WWII
  • Light tank: FT17
  • heavy Tank: Char 2C (1921)
  • Artillery: 75mm Gun

Oh dear. Also very do-able.


I do not need another project ... but 1929 is quite possible.
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sultanbev

I've recently done a Yemeni army list for the 1930s, there was the 1934 Yemen-Saudi Arabia war in real life -
you could have a British "enforcement of the border with Aden" campaign with British Indian troops, a few tanks and armoured cars, with the Pendraken WW1 Middle East range providing suitable figures.
Sharifian foot and cavalry make ideal regulars for the Yemeni army, with packs ME24 and ME25 suitable for the irregulars. It is thought they had some L5/21 tanks which are available as 3d prints, or you can pretend with FT-17 models. MMGs might be a problem, I don't see any in arab headdress, but using GEA3 from the East African range and file the pth helmets to a turban might do.

We often do 10mm late 1930s French versus British, with Vickers Medium II, III, Independents etc, versus Char D2, FCM-2C, P16 halftrack armoured cars.

There are assorted wars in South America in the 1930s, there's nothing to stop you doing a 1930 Falklands War, or a British/French intervention in the Gran Chaco War or something.

Wikipedia has a whole raft of conflict entries for each year, eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Conflicts_in_1929
which can be extrapolated further I am sure  :)

Roy

I'm not sure if you've completely ruled out the Americans, as in the USA, or not?
If not, they would have had M1917 light tanks (use a Renault FT) and Mk VIII Liberty tanks (convert a British Mk V?) so there's some possibility with what Pendraken have for gaming up to 1932 or so.

Personally, I'm doing an imagi-nation in the early 1980s. With the big, bad aggressor being the French - but just using AMX13 light tanks (unless Pendraken do an AMX30 anytime soon).
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fsn

21 February 2023, 12:17:31 PM #4 Last Edit: 21 February 2023, 01:04:16 PM by fsn
QuoteStay on target!  ;)
You're quite right. Thank you.

QuoteWe often do 10mm late 1930s French versus British, with Vickers Medium II, III, Independents etc, versus Char D2, FCM-2C, P16 halftrack armoured cars.

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Wikipedia has a whole raft of conflict entries for each year, eg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Conflicts_in_1929
which can be extrapolated further I am sure  :)
You're quite right. Thank you.
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Matt J

Well 1929 was a bit of a slow news year.

How does 'Johnson's ranch raid' class as a conflict :-\ Some Mexicans nicked some cows and left them by the river...

And some women in Nigeria went on a rampage of civil disobediance (by sitting down)

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fsn

QuoteI'm not sure if you've completely ruled out the Americans, as in the USA, or not?
Wellll ... there is always the 1930 War Plan Red. My problem with the US is that in 1929 it wasn't really producing indigenous vehicles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

1929 interests me because it is such a desert. WWI tank enthusiasm had died down, and was only just being rekindled. Germany, Italy and the Soviet Union weren't producing much aside from the Soviet light tanks, Britain's Experiment Mechanised Force was in 1927, the US followed on in 1928 and the French were being rather Gallic.

Granted several vehicles in my list fought on in WWII as second line, obsolete relics but in 1929 - they were modern, exotic, the cat's pyjamas.       

Who would't want the see the mighty Char 2C in its full glory!
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fsn

QuoteHow does 'Johnson's ranch raid' class as a conflict :-\ Some Mexicans nicked some cows and left them by the river...
Hmmm. Cow watering. That's a good thing isn't it?

QuoteAnd some women in Nigeria went on a rampage of civil disobediance (by sitting down)
Sorry, Pendraken don't do sitting Nigerian women, so that's right out.  :) 
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fsn

Quote from: Roy on 21 February 2023, 12:14:23 PMPersonally, I'm doing an imagi-nation in the early 1980s. With the big, bad aggressor being the French - but just using AMX13 light tanks (unless Pendraken do an AMX30 anytime soon).
My 1960s French are using the AMX13 and the Panhard a/c with M8's, scout cars and jeeps. My rationale is that they had to be airlifted in.

 
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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

You missed the small carniverious rodents - Ferrets.
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fsn

I have Ferrets.

The British have Ferrets and Land Rovers and Saladins and Saracens and Conquerors and Conways and a pair of Wessex and ... there's something else.

What could that be?
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Sure Techno could sculpt some Nigerian ladies...
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fsn

Ah! No.

Not after the last time he was given *ahem* females to sculpt.  :(



Not only was Techno required to rest in a darkened room for three weeks, but in that time all his "reserach material" was hunted down, fumigated and burned. One of the casting dwarves was also hospitalised in the production process, and the machine he was working on had to be stripped down and virtually rebuilt from scratch. Furthermore, it is rumoured that a female employee of the Post Office fainted whilst merely carrying a pack of these figures, and a well know private school for young gentlemen had to close for a term after one of the rapscallions ordered a bumper pack.

No Sir. It's just too dangerous. 
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Quote from: fsn on 21 February 2023, 04:31:56 PMI have Ferrets.

The British have Ferrets and Land Rovers and Saladins and Saracens and Conquerors and Conways and a pair of Wessex and ... there's something else.

What could that be?

French used Ferret 2 in Algeria
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