Fixing wheels onto artillery peices

Started by Nac451, 17 December 2022, 08:50:54 PM

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Nac451

Hi folks
Just a quick one, I'm looking for ideas as to how folks afix the wheels on Pendraken guns. I tried my first 2 today and used superglue, which whilst successful in the end, took me an absolute age, with much glue on my fingers and much frustration 😞 I would be most grateful for any help in this matter, never having worked in this scale before.
Many thanks
Kind regards
Nigel

Matt J

Baking soda.

Makes super glue set almost instantly.
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Use a gel superglue. Being a gel it will stay where you put it.

I use Loctite 60.
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Nac451

Baking soda....who'd have thought it. I'll have to try that. I presume you apply a little to the axle along with a drop of superglue, then hold the wheel against it and bang...it sets rock hard?

Ithoriel

I use a few grains of baking soda/ sodium bicarbonate sprinkled into the well in the wheel and a drop of gel superglue on the axle. Push together and the bond almost instant. Used on artillery, chariots, etc. to great effect.

NB the reaction generates heat, sparing amounts reduce the chance of singing your finger tips. Also the vapour given off is not good for you, keep your nose as far from the reaction as you can.
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Westmarcher

First, do a dry run to make sure the wheels fit on the axles (gently pare /shave down axles if they don't fit until they do).
Second, take a cocktail stick. Squeeze a small blob of superglue on to some disposal surface (e.g., piece of card, etc.). Dip end of cocktail stick into the blob of glue and apply to axle end. Attach wheel and hold in position for a short while, making sure wheels are symmetrical. 
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

steve_holmes_11

Leon posted on a similar thread (ages back).
He recommended using blu-tak and a painting stick to ensure the wheels remain aligned while the glue sets.

The advice above is equally valid.

kipt

I just put a small drop in the hub and then insert the axle.  Works for both sides and when almost fully set bend the wheels into the proper alignment.

John Cook

Forget about baking soda.  It works but as mentioned elsewhere it generates heat and fumes and is messy.  It is also completely unnecessary.  Use gel superglue, also suggested above, which is easier to apply than the liquid stuff.  Dispense the amount you need onto a plate or tile and apply with a cocktail stick or similar to one of the surfaces.  Offer up the two parts and apply an accelerant.  You can buy superglue accelerant in aerosol cans and it cures the glue in seconds.  Cheaper and just as effective, and not toxic at all, is plain tap water.  Dispense it in a puffer bottle as a mist and super glue cures very quickly.  Alternatively, put the smallest drop of water on one of the surfaces.  You don't need much, it just has to be damp, which is a reason why super glue bonds flesh so quickly. 


fsn

I do one wheel at a time. But I put the gun onto its side, so it sits on the wheel, whilst the glue dries. 
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Product Safety

Causes skin irritation.
Extremely flammable aerosol.
May cause damage to organs through prolonged or repeated exposure.
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    Causes skin irritation.
    Extremely flammable aerosol.
    May cause damage to organs through prolonged or repeated exposure.
    May cause drowsiness or dizziness.
    Pressurised container: May burst if heated.
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I'll take baking soda over that lot!

Also, spray can around a fiver, 200g of baking soda around £1.60. And, if used solely for accelerating superglue the 200g will probably last longer than I will!
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Westmarcher

QuoteAlso, spray can around a fiver, 200g of baking soda around £1.60. And, if used solely for accelerating superglue the 200g will probably last longer than I will!

... and you don't actually need either of them.

[Heavens! How did we ever manage to put an Airfix kit together when we were kids ...  =)  ;D  ]

p.s. I also recommend the gel Superglue.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

sultanbev

For pieces that are awkward to stick together, I use gel superglue on one half and contact adhesive on the other half - the contact adhesive acts as an accelerant like the above examples but gives just enough time to position stuff.

Ithoriel

So Nac451, lots of conflicting advice! :)

Are you:

- any the wiser?

- wishing you'd never asked?

:D :D :D
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QuoteLeon posted on a similar thread (ages back).
He recommended using blu-tak and a painting stick to ensure the wheels remain aligned while the glue sets.

The advice above is equally valid.
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