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Title: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 02 April 2013, 01:24:31 PM
It's getting to the stage where I can't see the wood for the trees....So to check I haven't done anything too waffy....Time to post some Wips up ! ;)(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4853_zps5a73da34.jpg)
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4854_zps8c9ece38.jpg)

So... Top row L/R. 3 x 'generic' Artillery crew....(Kneeling loader still to do)..66mm LAW....M79
Bottom row.... L4A2 advancing, L4A2 firing prone, 50mm single man mortar. 3 x Gurkhas.

There are tweaks still to do on some of these....(Like the hand on the middle figure top row....The standing 'Bren' needs the barrel shortening a  tiny tad...and I think the single man mortar wants 'cutting down' slightly too).....But let me know your thoughts.

Not shown is the GPMG on a tripod...But at the moment there are just two kneeling figures, neither of which has had their arms put on yet !

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Steve J on 02 April 2013, 02:09:34 PM
These look damned good to me :).
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: clibinarium on 02 April 2013, 03:12:56 PM
Those look great.

It's getting to the stage where I can't see the wood for the trees..
I know that feeling too well. There comes a point towards the end of a sculpt when you've be staring at it so long it can be hard to see any flaws, for me often they are only spotted when I take pictures, and then they can seem suddenly obvious. I'm sure its some phenomenon of the way the brain works, but I don't know what its called.
My ideal is to put the sculpts in a box for a week and then take them out for inspection, seeing them with fresh eyes. However that's a rare thing, usually they ship out the day after they are finished!
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: kev1964 on 02 April 2013, 03:19:49 PM
Those are excellent Techno, great poses, carn,t offer any technical opinion as not my thing but look damn fine to me.

kev
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 02 April 2013, 03:32:23 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 02 April 2013, 03:12:56 PM
It's getting to the stage where I can't see the wood for the trees..
I know that feeling too well. There comes a point towards the end of a sculpt when you've be staring at it so long it can be hard to see any flaws, for me often they are only spotted when I take pictures, and then they can seem suddenly obvious. I'm sure its some phenomenon of the way the brain works, but I don't know what its called.
My ideal is to put the sculpts in a box for a week and then take them out for inspection, seeing them with fresh eyes. However that's a rare thing, usually they ship out the day after they are finished!

I'm SO glad it's not just me Clibby !
You're right about the photo's..... ;) Though sometimes I don't notice something's gone **** up until I get a casting back....Then it's AAARGH !
The other thing I find, is that if I'm cycling figures round and around, I'll sometimes think I've totally finished a figure...So it goes to one side, and from that point I simply won't notice a really glaring mistake unless someone else points it out !
THEN it's a case of "How the hell did I not see that."
Think we should invent a new medical condition called "Sculptors' blind eye." ;) ;D

Thanks all for the kind comments.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Steve J on 02 April 2013, 03:48:14 PM
One tip from art classes is to look at the sculpts in a mirror. The change of viewing angle really throws up stuff that you hadn't seen before.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 02 April 2013, 05:35:10 PM
I'd forgotten all about that one Steve !
Someone mentioned that to me YEARS ago...and I've never even tried it !
I'll give it a go !!
Thanks.
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Rob on 02 April 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Hi Phil,

They look really good, love the Bren gunners. The GPMG SF is good news too.

I have some comments on the 66 LAW standing figure which looks wrong to me:

1. Tube should go over the shoulder. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Law_ftbenning_1960_04.jpg)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Law_ftbenning_1960_04.jpg

2. Trigger is a button on top so the right hand should be around the tube with the thumb at the side or underneath and fingers on top to apply downward pressure. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010714181744/www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/23-25/23250023.GIF)

3. Not sure if the figure is meant to be moving but a weapon like this will be fired from a stationary position. To be honest unless he is standing behind something and needs to stand he will fire either from the kneeling or prone position.

4. I don't think his personal weapon would be slung over the same shoulder where there is going to be a back blast, it's also likely to slip off slung like that. If slung it would be diagonal either across the back or even across the front. More likely he will have the weapon on the ground if kneeling or prone so he can quickly pick it up after he discards the spent 66.

Hope this is of use.

Cheers, Rob  :)
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 02 April 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Hi Rob.

Looks like my 'prose' re the photo hasn't explained things properly. #-o
There isn't a standing 66mm LAW figure...Just the prone guy.
I'm guessing that the one you're referring to is the one supposed to be firing the M79 ? (Unless I've looked up something wrong ??)
I've taken a bit of artistic license with the SLR  for casting purposes....a diagonal would probably cause problems/miscasts...and there would be a bit of a mould ripper if slung over the other shoulder.

Hope that helps.....and makes sense.  :-bd

Thanks - Phil.




Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: UZero on 02 April 2013, 09:45:03 PM
Very nice, just one pronblem - you forgot to put on the model number! How am supposed to order them for this weekend   :d
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Rob on 02 April 2013, 11:21:23 PM
Quote from: Techno on 02 April 2013, 06:42:12 PM
Hi Rob.

Looks like my 'prose' re the photo hasn't explained things properly. #-o
There isn't a standing 66mm LAW figure...Just the prone guy.
I'm guessing that the one you're referring to is the one supposed to be firing the M79 ? (Unless I've looked up something wrong ??)
I've taken a bit of artistic license with the SLR  for casting purposes....a diagonal would probably cause problems/miscasts...and there would be a bit of a mould ripper if slung over the other shoulder.

Hope that helps.....and makes sense.  :-bd

Thanks - Phil.


Ah-ha! I see now. Its me not absorbing what the words say.  :D

It all looks very good now.

Cheers  :)



Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 03 April 2013, 06:38:51 AM
Quote from: Rob on 02 April 2013, 11:21:23 PM
Ah-ha! I see now. Its me not absorbing what the words say.  :D

More likely me not 'writing it proper' Rob ! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Hertsblue on 03 April 2013, 09:56:06 AM
I notice from the picture that your occupation requires a great deal of wine-drinking, Phil. This may account for the end-of-day "sculptor's blindness".  :D
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 03 April 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Thank you Ray ! :P
Cheers - Phil ;)
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Dougie on 09 April 2013, 03:32:13 PM
Super stuff there  :)Dougie
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 09 April 2013, 05:50:40 PM
Thanks Dougie.
Cheers - Phil.

Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: nikharwood on 10 April 2013, 07:12:00 PM
Very nicely done, Phil, very nicely done indeed  8)

I'm not going to be able to resist this range for much longer...'specially with those Gurkhas: top-notch, mate, top-notch  :)
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 11 April 2013, 05:45:48 AM
Thanks Nik.
(You know you want to really.  ;))
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: nikharwood on 11 April 2013, 06:24:37 AM
Yeah - I know; I've been waiting for these since about 2005 when playtesting started on Cold War Commander...and the range is just about there now  8) :D 8)
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 11 April 2013, 07:26:50 AM
Hopefully have the remaining 'infills' (and tweaks) for the British troops photo'd and posted in the next few days.
Only one that's really taking extra time to do is the GPMG on the tripod.

Might as well ask folks' opinion here......

The front leg of the tripod has to be filled in from 'the ground' up, as it's a particularly thin piece and potentially a swine for Dave and Leon to mould easily.
If I model a little 'scrub/grass' as the filler, will you all be OK with that......Or will everyone go "YUK!" ? :-\

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: ryman1 on 11 April 2013, 08:04:03 AM
Could get wawy with sculpting supporting sandbags.........

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4653/idfgpmgrest.jpg)

Cheers

Ry
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 11 April 2013, 08:14:47 AM
Ooooooo......
Now that's probably a much better idea !
Thanks Ry ! :-bd
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: mart678 on 12 April 2013, 04:33:10 PM
Hi Phil

Very nice work the guns are 2 days away from completion thats the Argie and British one
so keep up the good work I really like the figures

Martin
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 12 April 2013, 06:37:19 PM
Get your bum over the hills sometime next week then Mart !  ;) ;D
We can photo the British chaps 'in situ'.
Then I can start on the Argies.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: rexhurley on 13 April 2013, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: Rob on 02 April 2013, 06:19:06 PM
3. Not sure if the figure is meant to be moving but a weapon like this will be fired from a stationary position. To be honest unless he is standing behind something and needs to stand he will fire either from the kneeling or prone position.

4. I don't think his personal weapon would be slung over the same shoulder where there is going to be a back blast, it's also likely to slip off slung like that. If slung it would be diagonal either across the back or even across the front. More likely he will have the weapon on the ground if kneeling or prone so he can quickly pick it up after he discards the spent 66.

Cheers, Rob  :)

Techno please donot do a prone one after having personally trained and fired these things you dont do it prone unless you have a passion for having your legs becoming somewhat crispied, always fired kneeling or standing and they are a b*tch to actually fire
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 13 April 2013, 10:55:25 AM
Hi Rex.

I'm guessing you mean the LAW 66mm.
Sorry....There is already a prone chappie.....BUT...I have him angled so the 'back-blast' wouldn't scorch his bum.
He's almost firing at 90 degrees to his torso, which I hope would give some sort of 'realism' to the figure. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 24 April 2013, 12:43:23 PM
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4868_zps1437ae55.jpg) (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/technodestructorman/media/IMGP4868_zps1437ae55.jpg.html)
(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4865_zps7f9bb3fb.jpg) (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/technodestructorman/media/IMGP4865_zps7f9bb3fb.jpg.html)

I dunno....I leave photobucket alone for 4 whole days....and they go and change things around AGAIN..... >:(...I'm FAR too ****ing old for this... ;) ;D ;D ;D

OK.... Top piccy....GPMG on tripod...The dark/shiny lines are where I'm going to 'ream off' the red putty to save Dave and Leon on metal....It's a two part model...The loader is completely separate with a 'nipple' under his knees that fits into a hole on the base.....I think this is 'castable' as is for Leon and Dave and should be very easy to assemble.

Underneath is the 'completed' 'generic' British artillery crew.....'spotta'.....loader....'carrying shell'....'firer'.

Cheers - Phil.

Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 April 2013, 03:57:01 PM
Sorry Phil - those gunners look a WWII - the helmets are a bit soup plate rather than Turtle.

IanS
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 24 April 2013, 04:52:52 PM
Flare them a little Ian ?
Might be the angle I photo'd them at.
Wouldn't take a moment....Let me know Matey. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 April 2013, 06:58:03 AM
Probably better to do em in Berets - otherwise should be lower at rear and have an angled set going down front to rear. I know a photo would help but lack the technology  :-[- sorry. Also not certain which helmet was used in the Falklands.

IanS
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 25 April 2013, 07:47:04 AM
Hi Ian.

From 'my sources'  ;) (rather than my ...ahem...research) it was the same 'pattern' as the WWII one.
Think I've got that right. :-\....But I stand to be corrected. ;)
I'll probably send these as they are....Then if there's a demand for berets or bare headed bods, I can convert these to give some variations if Leon fancies that. :)
If they are wrong as they stand, I can soon tweak them.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 April 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Yes it probably was - but the 44 pattern one, not the WWI soup plate, which those look like.

IanS
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: PeterRushton on 25 April 2013, 07:28:59 PM
This image from the imperial war museum web site:-

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205189465 (http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205189465)

shows "A 105 mm light gun of 29 Commando Regiment, Royal Artillery sited under camouflage netting between Fitzroy and Bluff Cove"

Some gunners are bareheaded, whilst others are wearing berets and others helmets. Seems like we could justify all these variations for the range!

Looking forward to adding the new items to my Falklands forces. Excellent work done on this project Mr Techno. "Thank you" very much.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Techno on 25 April 2013, 07:55:34 PM
 :) ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Dougie on 01 May 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Excellent stuff are we getting a light gun as well ? Dougie
Title: Re: Falkland's 'infills'.
Post by: Hertsblue on 02 May 2013, 07:59:39 AM
I guess Martin's the man to ask about that. It'd be very useful, though, not just for the Brits but also the US Marines.