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Hi Guys.
Happy New Year again !

Couple of pics below of the start of this project.
Some (all) of the figures may require modifying....(I've just noticed one has modified itself...Something's fallen off  ;D ;D)....and there are already some parts I'm not convinced of  myself.
I can't answer questions on what will be going in the range for certain yet, so I'm sort of 'doing my own thing' at the moment....(Que comment from Lemmy or Nik  ;) ) and getting things under way.

Hope you like them...Comments always welcome


(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4117.jpg)

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4118.jpg)

Coming along nicely. The rifle of the central figure, top row, looks a bit high on the shoulder. And the arms on the heavy machine-gunner could probably do with beefing up. But the two guys on right of the top row look pretty good.  :-bd

Regards.

Ray

Middle fig top row....You might be right Ray
Maybe doesn't look right as he hasn't got a right arm yet...That might make it look a bit more natural....Otherwise it's 'tweak' time.
Machine gunner ?.....Don't worry ....Those are just the green stuff armatures....Arms still to do properly  ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Nicely started Phil.
good to see work in progress, there are going to be great!
Knew these were on the way after discussions between Leon and Barrie from Timecast.
well done sir!
Lemmey
see i can be serious and or nice!  ;)

Any time scale on it ?

IanS ;)

Quote from: ianrs54 on 01 January 2012, 05:08:03 PM
Any time scale on it ?

IanS ;)

April - June 1982 Ian  :P ;D

These are looking great Phil - really nice to see these taking shape  8)

Nicely done. So many figures..so little time..

Quote from: nikharwood on 01 January 2012, 05:22:35 PM
April - June 1982 Ian  :P ;D

Think I know that - my cousin was one of the first ashore, and a family freind comanded a BP tanker in support.

ianS

off to dig out "dont cry for me sargeant major" to have a read and get my self psyched up for a bit of 10mm falklands action

My Uncle was an RSM out there IIRC.

Thanks Guys !

I'll try and get the pics of the figures just a little bit bigger next time....I really do seem to struggle with photobucket....When I paste them onto the forum page they either come out way too big or too small.....And I'm boggered if I can 'tweak' the images without going all the way back to the pics on my PC and editing them there.
It'll be me...I know  :-[

Now I've started, I should be able to really crack on with them.

Cheers - Phil. (Will you be wanting any penguins Leon ?) ;)

He'll be wanting sheep, 1:1 scale!  :P

Quote from: Steve J on 01 January 2012, 07:42:59 PM
My Uncle was an RSM out there IIRC.

had quite a few relatives out there, 3 cousins, an older brother and an uncle who drives the boats.

wonder how long before Falklands mk2 kicks off

Greetings

Nice to know there's progress. 

I can even imagine alternative uses e.g. defending the UK against tentacled horrors ...

Regards

Edward

I'll add tentacled horrors to the sheep and Lemmy's lemmings then... ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil.

Range is starting to get interesting!  ;D

Guys.

If I don't update for a few days...Explanation is that internet connection is very intermittent, due to getting the line knacked overnight in the storm.

Cheers - Phil. (I'm having to type VERY fast .)

These look awesome, I'll get the final lists sorted asap!

8)

Quote from: Leon on 05 January 2012, 12:18:58 AM
These look awesome, I'll get the final lists sorted asap!

8)

Thanks Leon, look forward to them.....At least the nice man from BT came and sorted out my telephone line yesterday...Huzzah !
Should be able to pop some updated photos a little later on.

Cheers - Phil.

This is fantastic news. The proportion and pose of the figures looks great.

The only comment I would make is about firepower. The figures when you have sorted out your final lists do not want to be 90% riflemen. The period in question is modern warfare and suppresive fire is paramount, so lots of GPMG please. The infantry even in the Falklamds still had plenty of anti-tank capability with Milan, 84mm and 66mm commonly used against dig-in positions.

Besides rifle men I think you need:

• GPMG
• L4A2 (this is for the Royal Marines, it's a Bren with a nearly straight magazine)
• Milan team
• 84mm Carl Gustav MAW
• rifleman with 66mm LAW
• Blowpipe anti-aircraft

This site has images of all of these weapons if that is of use:
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/b-weapons.htm (http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/b-weapons.htm)

Chears Rob  :)

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(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4136.jpg)

Pah !
I still can't get the hang of photobucket properly !

A bit further on.....I'll try and take the pics in better light tomorrow....Can't be bothered to get the tripod set up tonight (Oops..Damn...Wottagivaway.) Still bits to do on some of the figures (like arms and weapons !)...others are all but finished.

Cheers - Phil.

Look good - whats the 2nd guy in the top row doing? Looks like he's got a giant danish pastry???

The Royal Marines are coming along nicely :).

Quote from: fred12df on 05 January 2012, 07:59:36 PM
Look good - whats the 2nd guy in the top row doing? Looks like he's got a giant danish pastry???

C'mon Fred
It's Swiss roll for goodness sake.....Isn't it obvious ? ;)
Oh ....all right then..It's his sleeping mat rolled up.

You can't see it from the front, but the chap on the right of the British forces is loaded up to the nines with kit.....So I thought I'd do one of the Argentinians in a similar fashion.
How those guys carried all that stuff is totally beyond me....I don't think I could even lift the British kit onto my back.....Let alone march mile after mile with it....Stroll on !...Full of admiration for them.

Cheers - Phil

Good to see progress Phil - looking great  8)

Thanks Nik.

Cheers - Phil.

These are looking absolutely awesome and will be very high on the purchase list once released.

I'd echo Rob's comments on LAW/MAW - Jimpy etc. If I can make one observation I think the argy carrying the blanket should be dropped from the range :o With the way PD packs are arranged I would not like to have twenty or so argies carrying blanket rolls :-[ There must be a better use for the figure?

There is also something about the weapons the brits are carrying which I cant put my finger on?? It is difficult to tell from the photios but it looks like they are carrying armalites rather than SLR's? The barrels look quite short and there seems to be some sort of carrying handle over the top of the breech ejection area. The SLR carrying handle was never left up when firing.

Quote from: Nosher on 06 January 2012, 08:33:04 AM
These are looking absolutely awesome and will be very high on the purchase list once released.

I'd echo Rob's comments on LAW/MAW - Jimpy etc. If I can make one observation I think the argy carrying the blanket should be dropped from the range :o With the way PD packs are arranged I would not like to have twenty or so argies carrying blanket rolls :-[ There must be a better use for the figure?

There is also something about the weapons the brits are carrying which I cant put my finger on?? It is difficult to tell from the photios but it looks like they are carrying armalites rather than SLR's? The barrels look quite short and there seems to be some sort of carrying handle over the top of the breech ejection area. The SLR carrying handle was never left up when firing.

Hi Nosher.

Quite possibly the blanket carrying chap will get modified....When Leon's feeling up to scratch again we can sort things out. (Hint hint Leon ;) )

I know exactly what you mean about the SLRs.
Believe it or not they're (scale wise) a bit too long already !....It's because the barrel is (has to be) too fat they 'look wrong'.....and 'stumpy'
Ideally I'd use thinner rod, but that would make them such swine to cast...and they'd be too fragile. (I think we've all discussed this before.)
I may lengthen them a mm or two....Although that would make them even more out of scale, it might make them 'look right' ?

The 'carrying handle' that's on a couple is supposed to be a sight/night sight.....I can pick those off in no time If people would prefer ?

Still lots to sort out with these guys....Like I said earlier, I'm sort of doing my own thing at the mo'....But really pleased you like them.

Cheers - Phil.

Diecast vehicles have to be made out of scale in places simply to let the metal flow through the mould as it were, yet they look fine as a whole. The same is true of figures, weapons, spears etc. I'd make the whole figure look right IMHO.

Not having any experience of casting/modelling thanks for the explanation Techno - most helpful ;)

In terms of the Night Sight have you seen this

http://www.forces80.com/infantry_weapons.htm

The 1st generation Night Sight is the monstrosity pictured attached to the L1A1 and it was a heavy old bit of kit. It was in service and was in use during the falklands but in limited quantities and was still in use in Ireland when I was stationed there in the late 80's early 90's. The Hilux SUSAT followed later so wouldn't be appropriate.

Can I suggest that night sight is modelled to match the photo if possible?

Cheers Nosher.

That certainly IS a big piece of kit....My pretty (flat art..not photos) piccys must incorrectly show the newer model.
I'll just leave one of those and pick the others off.....Might even save that just for a prone sniper if one's required ?

Question you might be able to answer for me ?.....Again looking at pretty flat art, they seem to portray 'something' tacked on to the end of some of the SLRs....A flash eliminator ?
If I can do a not too chunky version of whatever it is, I can elongate the barrels by adding that....Otherwise I might try a 'dodge' I picked up from the Perrys, but have never tried myself..... rather than messing too severely with the models. :-\

Thanks - Phil.

Phil do you have a photo/pic of the 'something' tacked onto the end of some of the SLR's? Yes there is a flash eliminator at the end of an SLR barrel but in 10mm it would be negligible?

The only thing that springs to mind we ever 'tacked' onto the end of an SLR barrel (other than a bayonet!) is a blank firing attachment
Might be able to help if you have a pic thats postable or a webpicture?

Hi Nosher.

Even in the 'pretty pics' it's relatively tiny....I'm sure it must be a flash eliminator.....
I'll have a 'play' with just one of the SLRs to see what it comes out like....Think I can make it work, without it looking silly (fingers crossed)
Amazingly....Pretty sure I know what the blank firing attachment looks like....Good bit more noticeable.

Thanks - Phil.

not something like this then ?

(http://forum.militarylightweight.co.uk/download/file.php?id=1178)
L1A1 - Muzzle cover (It is of a rubberised foam construction, 15cm overall length, and attatches to the rifle with a hole in the tail, which you pull over the bayonet lug.)


or could it be one of these :

(http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2011/01/BFAselection-1.jpg)

the L6A1 BFA, its a massive, solid BFA capable of trapping a bullet if needed.


Left to Right
Canadian C1 BFA
Canadian C1A1 BFA (also British L1A1 BFA)
British L1A2 BFA
British L1A2 (modified) BFA
British L6A1 BFA
Australian BFA

Quote from: Techno on 06 January 2012, 10:52:43 AM
Even in the 'pretty pics' it's relatively tiny....I'm sure it must be a flash eliminator.....
I'll have a 'play' with just one of the SLRs to see what it comes out like....Think I can make it work, without it looking silly (fingers crossed)
Amazingly....Pretty sure I know what the blank firing attachment looks like....Good bit more noticeable.

Miles laser?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Integrated_Laser_Engagement_System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_Integrated_Laser_Engagement_System)

In 1982?  :o

Quote from: mad lemmey on 06 January 2012, 06:42:54 PM
In 1982?  :o

Yep -  but not I think on rifles.

BFA's were normally the smaller types.
The II sight is a Starlight Scope - large and heavy.
IanS

Shoot me down in flames Guys...
But....As far as the sights are concerned....Could it be that the artist has taken his reference from the sights that the Argentine army used on their SLRs ?
From the limited research I've been able to do, it appears that the 'bad guys' had more up to date resources than our chaps....(Though they blamed their defeat on THEM having inferior equipment.)?

The 'flash eliminator'......It's been portrayed as something much 'cleaner and neater' than Dazza's rubber thingy pic.....Can't believe it's supposed to represent any of the yellow 'wossnames'.

But the help is VERY much appreciated.....

Thanks All - Cheers - Phil. (who's very dazed and confused this morning.....Bought myself a spiffy new soldering iron which arrived yesterday.....I reckon I've given myself an overdose of Butane.....Couldn't get the damn iron to fire up.....Over and over and over again.... But would I go outside in the fresh air.....No "It'll go next time " !
Boy did I feel horrid last night.

Might be worth having a look at the Vietnam Aussies Phil - their SLRs look great...

(http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/f/1203546551/anzac%20co2.JPG)

Loads more pics here: http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/w/page/7825429/CWC%20Australian%20battlegroup

Ta Nik.

I'm going to have a go at lengthening the SLRs I've done on the models already, using a tiny speck of solder on the very tip of the barrels (and then neatening them up with my custom made 'emery boards' and a miniscule smidgeon of putty.)
If that doesn't work I'll redo them....Though I'll probably have to have a hissy fit first. ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil. (Good paint job on the sci-fi marines Matey...Spot on !)

During the conflict Brits didn't have many sights as standard (relied mainly on the iron ones) so could be a waste modeling them with, a more common sight than the night sight was the early version of a SUSAT which was detachable. The 1980's SLR was exactly the same as the ANZAC SLR for sizes and visual aspects. It was also fairly rare to use the carrying handle as the sling was a lot more comfortable and left your hands free.

The LMG (converted Bren gun) was also used by the engineers as the standard section LMG, and dont forget the SMG issued to rad ops and officers, amongst others ;) also  a M2 .50 cal was used for air defence.

Just a thought but if you model the para's they had para helmets instead of the old metal basin everyone else had. A lot of troops (especially the marines) had civie items like gaters and bergans.

A BFA would not of been found anywhere near troops in combat btw ;)

Quote from: Techno on 05 January 2012, 08:42:21 PM
C'mon Fred
It's Swiss roll for goodness sake.....Isn't it obvious ? ;)
Oh ....all right then..It's his sleeping mat rolled up.

You can't see it from the front, but the chap on the right of the British forces is loaded up to the nines with kit.....So I thought I'd do one of the Argentinians in a similar fashion.
How those guys carried all that stuff is totally beyond me....I don't think I could even lift the British kit onto my back.....Let alone march mile after mile with it....Stroll on !...Full of admiration for them.

Most of the guys only carried fighting order rather than lugging the bergans around as well, particularly on the march across the island. However, fighting order usually came to well in excess of 50lbs even without all the extra ammunition, heavy weapons etc. A Milan operator's fighting load came to well over 120lbs IIRC. My kit (including rucksack) weighed in at about 104lbs and I only carried an SMG. A lot of the weight came from the extra arctic clothing (oversmock, waterproofs, quilted under suit, underwear etc) and rations which filled the rucksack. Fortunately I only had to walk about a mile carrying that lot, the rest of the time I moved by helicopter.

Anyway I digress. Here at TimeCast we have been liaising with Leon regarding this range and we are planning on have a range of buildings and scenics for the Falklands war ready for April. The models will be based on photographs (as usual), including some from my own photo album. Keep any eye on the TimeCast website in the next couple of months.

Barrie
TimeCast


EDIT: Quote fixed.

Hello Barrie!
Nice to see you here!  :D
Will

REALLY GOOD to note that Timecast will be backing this venture too ;)

Already putting pennies away for this one!

Quote from: TimeCast on 12 January 2012, 12:51:26 PM
Anyway I digress. Here at TimeCast we have been liaising with Leon regarding this range and we are planning on have a range of buildings and scenics for the Falklands war ready for April. The models will be based on photographs (as usual), including some from my own photo album. Keep any eye on the TimeCast website in the next couple of months.

Or as some would say "Top-notch".  8)

Quote from: OldenBUA on 12 January 2012, 02:08:21 PM
Or as some would say "Top-notch".  8)

Too right  ;D

That's great news Barrie - I think this is going to be spectacular  8)

Hi Barrie...

From what you've said....Is this guy overloaded then ?

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4153.jpg)

Cheers - Phil...(Who STILL can't seem to change the size of the piccies......AAAARGH !!

Quote from: Techno on 07 January 2012, 09:39:33 AM
Shoot me down in flames Guys...
But....As far as the sights are concerned....Could it be that the artist has taken his reference from the sights that the Argentine army used on their SLRs ?
From the limited research I've been able to do, it appears that the 'bad guys' had more up to date resources than our chaps....(Though they blamed their defeat on THEM having inferior equipment.)?

The 'flash eliminator'......It's been portrayed as something much 'cleaner and neater' than Dazza's rubber thingy pic.....Can't believe it's supposed to represent any of the yellow 'wossnames'.

Is this the mystery flash eliminator?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soldadosargentinos3.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soldadosargentinos3.jpg)

or this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Century_Arms_FN_FAL.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Century_Arms_FN_FAL.jpg)

If so it is the Argentine FAL rifle. If depicted with a British soldier it is a captured weapon. Some British soldiers originally equipped with the Sterling SMG used them.

It seems some countries that manufactured this rifle under licence introduced their own flash eliminator.

Cheers, Rob  :)

Quote from: Techno on 12 January 2012, 03:59:10 PM
Cheers - Phil...(Who STILL can't seem to change the size of the piccies......AAAARGH !!

Hi Phil. If it's not TOO technical. Try adding width=xxx in the [ IMG ] thingie at the front of the pic ref line. It should go after IMG, but before the ]. Something like [IMG width=480].

Thanks 'Olden'

I'll give that a whirl...Probably not tonight....I'm getting teed off with being the 100,000th (?) person to log on every time I visit  ;D ;D ;D ;D.
I just know it'll be something I'm missing...Though the last couple of times I've tried on Photobucket it says it's done it....Then it stays at the same size when I preview it....There's going to be some silly thing that I'm not doing....I'll get there in the end  ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Photobucket is dreadful. Try Google Picasa web, it is much better, not least for the lack of dreadful pop up adds and the like. It also includes a good editor so you can get the image the right size.

Quote from: Techno on 12 January 2012, 03:59:10 PM
Hi Barrie...

From what you've said....Is this guy overloaded then ?

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4153.jpg)

Actually that's pretty close to the size of the loads - it was very tricky negotiating the stairwells on the Canberra and climbing into the landing craft while carrying that lot. I was just glad I travelled by helicopter most of the time - one of the advantages of being on the Brigade staff rather than an infantryman...

:-)

Barrie

Quote from: TimeCast on 13 January 2012, 09:58:10 AM
Actually that's pretty close to the size of the loads - it was very tricky negotiating the stairwells on the Canberra and climbing into the landing craft while carrying that lot. I was just glad I travelled by helicopter most of the time - one of the advantages of being on the Brigade staff rather than an infantryman...

:-)

Barrie

Thanks Barrie....I reckon I would have needed a couple of Sherpas to carry it for me.

Fred....Might give that recommendation a go too....thanks to you too !

Cheers - Phil

That is a marching load - it would be left at the Form-up point befroe an attack. Then troops would have Ammo pouches, kidney piuches and bum roll. That would often be straped on top of the kidney pouch. Grenades wuould be in pouches, although "66 Heat" (M72 A/T) may have been carried, and No 1 and 2 on Charlie G and Number 2 on Milan would be carring spare rounds, 3 ?. Similar for Lt Mortars, whilst GPMG teams may have had belts in bandoliers.

Final point - Radio Op's with Flags.!

IanS

IIRC the modern infantry carries the same marching load as a Roman Legionnaire. After a days march carrying his load, the Legionnaire then had to make camp, dig a defensive ditch etc, whilst on campaign that is.

Quote from: Steve J on 13 January 2012, 11:20:04 AM
IIRC the modern infantry carries the same marching load as a Roman Legionnaire. After a days march carrying his load, the Legionnaire then had to make camp, dig a defensive ditch etc, whilst on campaign that is.

While I have no doubt the Romans had to carry their own kit I suspect that it did not amount to the same weight as that regularly carried by modern infantrymen, with all the extra burdens of ammunition, radios, batteries, night sights/NVGs, notebooks/pens/aidememoires, maps, first aid eqpt etc etc.

In addition, a marching camp probably didn't take too long to put together when there were several thousand of you all working together. Once settled down for the night you had a chance to sleep and rest, unless you were one of those picked for guard duty (probably a relatively slim chance as the duties were spread around so many people - unless you had pee'd off the optio or centurion).

The lads in the Falklands also had to dig in, which takes a lot of time when there's only two of you working on a trench, plus the guard duty would be shared around between the 8-10 guys in the section, plus radio stags for the radio operators, plus finding bodies for any night patrols, recce patrols, briefings, working parties for unloading helicopters, distributing ammunition/rations etc.

Regardless of the weight carried by Roman soldiers or their modern counterparts, the modern soldier generally gets far less sleep/rest than his predecessor, plus he is in danger for a far greater amount of time in the field, with a corresponding increase in stress and exhaustion.

BTW a friend of mine who served in Iraq at Al Amarah in 2005/5, said his basic combat load included body armour, helmet, camelback water system, SA80 and 300 rounds, 2 x frag, 2 x wp and 2 x smk grenades plus a  GPMG and 1000 rounds. It was all he could do to walk let alone run around. All this in temperatures which regularly went over 100 degrees. When I asked him why he carried two weapons he explained that in his first contact the number two on the gun got separated and along with all the spare ammunition for the gpmg. As a result he ran out of ammuntion in pretty short order. After that he made sure to carry a rifle and ammunition for his own protection if he ever ran out of round for the GPMG again. As near as I can figure out he would have been carrying about 34 lbs of weapons, 30 lbs of body armour, water and webbing, plus at least 50lbs of ammunition.

Barrie
TimeCast

If I can dive in with a slightly off topic question here... (sorry!)

I used to play (still have the rules) a skirmish moderns game in which the british rifle section had 1 guy with an MBT LAW. The rules made this weapon a single-fire only and it never made any sense to me that, even when I queried the official rules bods, he didn't have a rifle too... Would a british rifleman with an MBT LAW really not have a rifle?

Sorry for the intrusion, I return you to normal service ;)

Quote from: TimeCast on 13 January 2012, 12:47:48 PM

As near as I can figure out he would have been carrying about 34 lbs of weapons, 30 lbs of body armour, water and webbing, plus at least 50lbs of ammunition.

Barrie
TimeCast

Good grief !. :o. And that in 100 + degrees !

Believe me you soon get used to such temperatures. When I lived in Nigeria, the night time temperatures regularly stayed at the 100 Fahrenheit mark. When I went into the workshop in the morning at 7.30am, my metal jack planes etc were warm to the touch. During the day the temperature was well into the 130s and upwards which believe me is bl**dy hot and that was not in the sun! Up on the border with the Sahel it was another 20 degrees warmer. Playing a 40 over match of cricket in these temperatures was tiring to say the least.

Hi Steve.

HEAT I can stand.....(Though I'm not sure even my skinny frame would be too keen on 130 degrees).....But as well as the weight those guys had to carry (sheesh!)....Which I would just not be capable of for ANY distance.....The cold would have finished yours truly off in NO time !

Cheers - Phil.

I think the chap kneeling-firing has to be the best posed of any of the pendraken figures kneeling-firing what ever the range. It looks right!

Quote from: stormrider on 13 January 2012, 06:35:50 PM
If I can dive in with a slightly off topic question here... (sorry!)

I used to play (still have the rules) a skirmish moderns game in which the british rifle section had 1 guy with an MBT LAW. The rules made this weapon a single-fire only and it never made any sense to me that, even when I queried the official rules bods, he didn't have a rifle too... Would a british rifleman with an MBT LAW really not have a rifle?

Sorry for the intrusion, I return you to normal service ;)

British Army Regulations Infantry Training Vol IX, Pamphlet 45, Part 3 The Infantry Platoon (Supplement) 1977 states that the section MAW (84mm) was carried by the No1, who was also armed with an SMG or a rifle. The No2 on the MAW was armed with a rifle and carried 4 rounds of 84mm ammunition (14.52 Kg). Each section was also scaled to have 2 x 66mm LAWs (one shot disposable). These were carried by the other riflemen.

Hope this helps.

Barrie
TimeCast

Hi Phil,
even when used to the temperatures, you had to pace yourself. Machining 12'x12"x3" lengths of timber was tiring but you worked at a steady pace. You soon learnt to follow the Nigerian pace of life because it simply worked in those sorts of temperatures. Mind you, I never envied the porters in markets carrying one hundred weight sacks of grain etc around all day.

Steve.

I think you're absolutely right about 'getting used' to temperatures !...And it's strange how little (in degrees) the temp has to change before you start to feel it !...And from what I understand there's a lot to do with the humidity.
The temp in Wales has just dropped by what is in reality just a tiny amount, and my hands are going blue when I go outside. ;D ;D ;D

Martyn.

Thanks !....I like to think I've 'nailed' that particular one there....It's amazing...It's probably down to literally microns at this scale, on what 'looks spot on' and "Hmmm...that's good...but there's something not quite natural about it....Even I like that one !...So I'm really pleased you do too.

Cheers - Phil

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4164.jpg)

Pics too big again (SIGH). :'(...Don't have the patience to muck about with it at the mo'. ;)

Anyway....These are what went in the post to Leon today, so there'll be plenty of time to tweak whichever ones need doing.
There's definitely one I'm not too convinced about.
The two strange figures at the bottom are plain prone 'dollies', to save time for any prone figures that are required for either this, or future projects.
One day I'll take the time to take better piccies ! :)

Cheers - Phil.

The helmet on the figure second from the right on the top row looks like a modern US helmet to me?

Still dont like the blanket roll chap - looks like hes carrying an oversised chicken fajita wrap - sorry :-[

And one last comment - the figure 2nd from the laft (next to fajita wrap man) - you dont see many men wandering round with their weapons held at the high port. It would be better if he was sculpted in an advancing pose with his weapon butt into his shoulder, muzzle pointing downward 'at the ready'

Will the figures in berets also be sculpted with helmets?

Hi Nosher....
Swine !! You haven't gone for the one I'm really not sure about ! ;)

I've got a 'proto' list from Leon....But not the final one yet.
If the 'approved' list is anywhere as long as the one I've got there'll be so many figures you probably won't even notice 'fajita wrap man' ;D
Can't answer the helmet question at the mo' as the little chap is winging his way to Leon with the others.....I'll see what the man says....

Don't know what the other designers think, but for my own part I find getting the helmets to look correct (especially at this scale) is probably the hardest part of the model to get really spot on as possible....The berets are sheer delight to do compared to the helmets....I suppose I can always add camo/scrim ?

Again, from the proto list there are to be variations on the head gear....Whether or not there'll be 'hat swaps' on the original batch I'm not sure...If there's time and Leon wants them ......?

Understand what you mean about 2nd from left ....Maybe Leon will send him back for a quick conversion.

Cheers - Phil.

Looking good Phil - although I do agree that the helmet needs attention: some camo / scrim would sort it top-notch; ditto re blanket-fajita-man...can't see a use for him at all (sorry!) - I'd be reluctant to use him even on a command stand I think  ???

I'm afraid I also agree with nosher on the high-port: the 'classic' pose is as nosher decribes...and I'd buy a boatload  :)

If you do head variations, these'd be useful potentially for Africa mercs a la The Wild Geese. Which would be nice  8)

Overall though, mate, these are stunning - and I'm delighted to see this range coming to fruition...it's been a long wait to see these in 10mm!

Can't wait for these guys to hit the streets of Caccara and many other bannana republics I have planed for them  8)

Right then.
It's one blanket to go....extra camo.... and hold the SLR (downwards)....That will look much nicer.....(or more natural)....You're right you swine.  ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Just to throw a quick two-penneth in, there were three types of headwear, helmet/helmet with scrim/beret, and we'll be looking to convert all foot into those three variations as we go along.

Could be wrong - but were British Para still using somethong similar to the WWII helmet, on the basis that we might have been able to scape up 1 aircraft for them to jump out of.

IanS

Ian,

Think you are correct Paras had the WWII helmet (or a variation of it) until the mid 80's and the introduction of all new kit (SA80, helmets etc)

Quote from: Techno on 19 January 2012, 10:45:04 PM
and hold the SLR (downwards)....

Another variation on the 'at the ready' pose with the butt in the shoulder is the exact opposite of the pose you already have, the classic yomp pose with the rifle cradled in the crook of the right arm as opposed to in the shoulder

That might be an easier pose to achieve without altering this model a lot - but I wouldnt want to lose sight of the at the ready pose either!

In the words of the Toy Story Pig Hamm..... "Picky, Picky, Picky!"

Hi Nosher
When I get the little chap back, I'll have a bit of a play and do a 'rough' first, take a piccy....then I can be sure I'm on the right lines.
Just as a matter of interest....If he was (were ?) running, would he then be more likely to hold the barrel up ?

As far as a rough goes...Someone has recently mentioned something called 'black stuff' to me....Supposedly a more robust and stickier version of Blu-Tak...Anyone heard of this and know what its proper name is ?...I'll have a bit of a search in a moment and see if I can find it myself...But any help would be gratefully received....Might find this particularly useful.....(A few minutes later...I've found it already "Black tack (tac)....I'll let you know if it IS any use - P)

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: Techno on 20 January 2012, 12:21:25 PM
If he was (were ?) running, would he then be more likely to hold the barrel up ?

Probably not. All of the rifle training dcotrine when on the ranges and on exercise/ops was pretty much focussed on keeping the barrel pointing down so that should a round be let of accidentially ie. ND (Negligent Discharge) the risk of hitting your mates was reduced.

The pose you have reminds me of WW2 US Rangers/Marines coming off the LCT?LCI where the purpose is to keep the weapon muzzle high and free of water. 

Looking again at the picture he would probably have his right hand holding the weapon by the pistol grip which was a common grip given the ease of being able to slip the finger into the trigger guard nice and quick.

Check out the guy on the left of this picture
http://www.roguegunner.com/2011/12/falklands-war-film-to-be-done-in-isle.html

Thanks Nosher.

Cheers - Phil.

Re Helmets

The Paras wore their own style helmet very similar in shape to the WW2 para helmet. The marines and army wore the 44 pattern steel helmet, but in nearly all cases the helmets were covered with hessian and a scrim net with bits of hessian/sandbag aterial or scrsps from cam nets to break up the outline. The nearest I have seen in the existig Pendraken ranges is the kneeling WW2 British Bren gunner. If the helmets can be made to look like that they will be spot on for both the Falklands and central Europe (NATO).

The 44 pattern helmet looks like this:
http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/2344518.jpg?691
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh63/jeep442007/S6000428.jpg

The para helmet was also usually camouflaged with hessian or snadbag material but tended to be less cluttered with scrim.

Here is an example: http://www.bugbitten.com/images/45ececbb4fa848ad3a87f3ee17919755/Falklands_War_March_June_1982_Aged_17-60822/Falklands_War_March_June_1982_Aged_17-2358683.jpeg

The figures in berets look spot on as regards headgear (looking forward to painting one with a green Int Corps beret!).

Phil, if you have any queries about the British uniforms and how they were worn please e-mail me direct at sales@timecastmodels.co.uk

All the best

Barrie
TimeCast

Hi Barrie.

That'll be far more than very useful !
I'll be in touch very soon....And many thanks for those links !
Just quickly...Am I right in assuming that the only real difference in a metal figure for the berets is that all the British forces' berets sloped down towards the right ear while the Argentinians sloped theirs down towards the left ?

Thanks again - Phil.

Glad to see these figs. They may even make me abandon 20mm! Who knows.

Some good points have been made. I agree that teh helmet is too Fritz. Wrong wrong wrong. Here's from my blog:
http://winterof79.blogspot.com/2011/02/british-army-helmets-in-1979-part-2.html

best bet is scrim them up, loads of cam and you can't go wrong.

Packs etc. Great for the yomp/tab but not for fighting a hill battle. I consider all non SF troops with back packs to be marching not fighting.

Wavy rifles - gets my teeth on edge - we were indeed taught to point down. Figures pointing their weapon skyward should be wearing tricorns, kepis etc and not about to blat some Argies.

Berets - A beret is not the same as any other beret. We wore then to the right, Argies wore them to the left, Para vets wore them like Andy Capp.

Regards the SLR, Id personally drop the sight whether night sight or SUIT.

LMGs (BRENS) were also used by Marines and SF.

I take it the guys in the bottom row of the main photo are Argies?

Cheers
Mark

Quote from: Techno on 20 January 2012, 10:28:57 PM
Hi Barrie.

That'll be far more than very useful !
I'll be in touch very soon....And many thanks for those links !
Just quickly...Am I right in assuming that the only real difference in a metal figure for the berets is that all the British forces' berets sloped down towards the right ear while the Argentinians sloped theirs down towards the left ?

Thanks again - Phil.

British soldiers are required to wear the beret pulled to the right, with the cap badge worn above the left eye. The beret band is 1" above the eye IIRC. However regiments have their own styles for berets...

Parachute regiment (usually worn with the cap badge somewhere near the left side of the head or sometimes above the left ear - this is the Para ally look)!

(http://img45.exs.cx/img45/2800/451412094ec.jpg)
(http://img90.exs.cx/img90/479/451138495yz.jpg)
(http://img23.exs.cx/img23/6893/451094710al.jpg)

Guards - the preferred style is for the beret close to the head:
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(http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/6573895E-B324-424A-981B-C1345C15D75F/0/TobieFasfousFamilyProvidedPhoto.JPG)

Royal Marines - it should look like this
(http://www.royalmarinesonline.com/images/beretRM.jpg)

but some like the "old school" two-way stretch...
(http://autonomousmind.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/rm.jpg)

Officers...well, they tend to do their own thing and some never get it quite right...
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/06/princeharryPA110606_228x179.jpg)
(http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib//20/media-20533/mid.jpg)

Argentine berets. Johnny Gaucho does it completely arse about face...

(http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/418541.jpg?658)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/325000/images/_327323_argentine_army300.jpg)
(http://[http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7242/610x2vf5.jpg)

But then again, a lot of foreigners have trouble with the beret...

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4sDK3codoaA/TLt3lbV2QJI/AAAAAAAAEq8/9OqH1qMs4ZU/s400/Los+paracaidistas+saludan+al+alcalde+de+M%C3%A1laga.jpg)
(http://sabanalamarinos.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/cheguevara.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/12/02/article-2069199-0F07488000000578-445_634x409.jpg)
(http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/107701847.jpg?v=1&c=EWSAsset&k=2&d=B573487FE31561CA9EF407AEE1F7703B9DDEA92188BA71CDF7BF442053837E65)
(http://66.img.v4.skyrock.net/668/armeebelge/pics/1442440825_small.jpg)

Actually, regarding the last photo, they are Belgian Chasseurs Ardennais, and are pretty tough chaps, being a members of a elite unit with a hard reputation. As a rule of thumb, it is always best not to make comments about the more outrageous styles of beret worn by some European soldiers, as they tend to be worn as distinguishing marks by units like the Foreign Legion etc, who will take a dim view of anyone laughing at their head gear...

Hope this helps...

Barrie

"Officers...well, they tend to do their own thing and some never get it quite right..."

So true, so true........LOL!

Mark

QuoteAs a rule of thumb, it is always best not to make comments about the more outrageous styles of beret worn by some European soldiers, as they tend to be worn as distinguishing marks by units like the Foreign Legion etc, who will take a dim view of anyone laughing at their head gear...

Cue one of my favourite motivational pics:

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/motivational/venezualanparas.jpg)

Well...
Only just noticed  this !
Do my old eyes deceive me, or is Johnny Gaucho none other than Russ Abbott ?.....I think we should be told.
And why are the Venezuelan paras using guitar hero poses ?...Looks like the chord D 7th from the finger placements.

Cheers - Phil.

Very interesting stuff and I love the beretmania...  Is there any update on when the range will be released as I'll need to speak to the bank as I'll probably need to remortgage!  Also is tjete any air support planned eitjer metal or sourced kits for Sea Harriers, Skyhawks and Daggers?  I've had a look around ebay and there are a few kits around but I guess everyone will be wanting at leasr a couple of each and some helis??
Rob

For releases, I'm estimating sometime around July or August I think.  I've got a load of odds and ends to get released in March, then Sci-Fi in April, ACW in May, and I'm leaving June spare just in case!   :D

We won't be getting the aircraft designed, as the costs are too much for the potential sales, so we'll be looking to source some suitable kits from elsewhere and sell them alongside the range.

8)

Latest pics from Techno!

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Masters%20Pics/IMGP4320.jpg)

(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l575/PendrakenMiniatures/Masters%20Pics/IMGP4318.jpg)

8)

Thanks for posting those up Leon.
Top Row L/R...Radio Op.(sans 'antenna'....too small to cast a realistic size one.... but I know a lot of you will add a fine bit of fuse wire!)..Engineer Looking down at exposed mine...Advancing with SLR....Firing SMG from shoulder....SAS advancing with SLR....SAS with grenade launcher....SAS firing M16.

Bottom row.
L/R. Milan Team .....Prone GPMG team....Prone engineer probing ground with bayonet.

Cheers - Phil.

Nice... =P~

Superb Phil!  8)

Good stuff - any figures with L4 LMG, and standing MG teams.

IanS

Thanks all.

Ian....The LMG isn't on the list (at the moment... ;))
But I have done an advancing GPMG team.

Cheers - Phil.

But the Booties had 1 per section, along with thier GPMG.....supposed to go back into the Armory off a Norwiegan exercise. But ?  :D

IanS

Lovely Phil - really nicely done  8)

They look truely outstanding -  :)

Quote from: ianrs54 on 26 April 2012, 12:40:16 PM
But the Booties had 1 per section, along with thier GPMG.
IanS

I'd never be surprised if that'll be on Leon's 'wish list' soon. Have to wait and see. ;)
And thanks again to Nik and Eccles !
Cheers - Phil.

EXCELLENT! Cannot wait to paint these :) .....Your going to be very busy doing some Cold War next.....says the hypnotist...you are feeling sleepy.......zzzzz :D

 @-) @-) @-) @-)

Lovely.....FFS Leon get these released! :D

Cheers, Craig

They're not far away, I'm hoping to get the first batch ready for the July releases, so about 8 weeks away!  Although I might hold them back as a special release at the Pendraken Birthday Bash on the 14th!

:D

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4450.jpg)
'Bout time I posted some more of the little chaps.

L/R Argentinians..Reading map...Advancing under fire with FN FAL....Radio Op with 'walkie talkie'....Officer pointing with FN FAL
British Mortar crew with 81mm mortar....Not sure if I like the mortar tho' :-\.....Also not sure whether there should be 3 rather than two in the crew....Anybody ??

Cheers - Phil.

3 crew at least, and the mortar should be a K support, not bipod.

IanS

Ta Ian...
Doesn't really show from this angle....Believe it or not... it's not a bipod...it is supposed to be the K support...Not sure if the 'bits' are really quite in the right place though !
It's so fiddly at this scale...and I'm not sure whether Leon will want me to 'infil' on the support to make it easier to cast....
Might actually be easier to do the 'K' 'more proppa'  ;) if that's the case....

It is a Wip...So I don't regard it as the ultimate article.

Cheers - Phil.

Looking good!

Looking really good 8).

Really looking good Techno! Did you have a go at the British bias we discussed?  ;)

Like those Argentinians i take it thats the command group :-\ Any chance of a rough list of the Falklands war range , no worries if not  8)

Quote from: Gran76 on 28 June 2012, 06:10:23 PM
Any chance of a rough list of the Falklands war range , no worries if not  8)

Over to you Leon !  :).....I've still got a few to go yet though off the original lists.
Almost finished the British now....(I think) :-\

Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 June 2012, 04:09:33 PM
Really looking good Techno! Did you have a go at the British bias we discussed?  ;)

Which bit of bias Lemmey ? My brains gone completely AWOL  ;D ;D ;D....If anyone finds it .....can you let me know ! :)

Cheers - Phil.

Bloodypredictivetextsonephones!  >:( Honestly!
It was meant to say, "Did you have a go at a certain British chap we discussed?"
Or summitlikethat!
;D

Not yet mate....
I'll have to wait for a certain piece to be pressed & moulded....then I can have it back & convert it !
That's still definitely on !! ;) ;)
I wondered what this bias was.....Thought I was cracking up more than usual. ;)
You can all stop looking for my brain now.....Not that you'd ever find it without a microscope :(

Cheers - Phil.

Found it in with the bits of Green Stuff, did you?  :D

Finding tiny bits of Green Stuff is an absolute doddle in comparison Ray. :D
Cheers - Phil

Looked at the mortar again - think its the angle, from front on it should look fine. You could do US, Canadian and several other nationalites for crew.

IanS

Hi Ian.

IF I can get photobucket to work later on, without it driving me totally insane again  >:(....I'll try and post a shot from the front to give you a better idea of the shape of the 'legs'.

Cheers - Phil.

Hi Techno

If I can get the photobucket to work around 9 tonight I will post the completed about to go in the post to Leon Falklands vehicles

Martin

Least you can make the things, more'n I can manage.  :D :D

IanS

Could that certain chap be a Col H Jones by any chance?

What about max hastings, gov rex hunt?

Uh - Uh !!.....No hints. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Superb Phil - really looking good; the anticipation for these is killing me  :d

Thanks Nik.

I think you'll like what I'm doing to the new zombies too.  ;)

Cheers - Mr Sick B'stard.

Quote from: Techno on 29 June 2012, 08:37:50 PM
Thanks Nik.

I think you'll like what I'm doing to the new zombies too.  ;)

Cheers - Mr Sick B'stard.

Oho - yum...go get your camera Mr B'stard...

Quote from: nikharwood on 29 June 2012, 08:38:54 PM
Oho - yum...go get your camera Mr B'stard...

Isn't he due in the House of Commons?  :P

Quote from: nikharwood on 29 June 2012, 08:38:54 PM
Oho - yum...go get your camera Mr B'stard...

When they're a teeny tad further forward Nik.
I'm quite proud of the skull headed 'kiddy' armed with a teddy bear....He's tiny !
Got to add a couple of rats chewing at Mr 'slimy' as he drags himself forward. ;)

Cheers - Phil.

All sounds rather exciting on the zombie front  8)

Or sick ! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

Ok 25hours late but for our south Atlantic friends!
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o551/mart6678/100_6710.jpg)
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o551/mart6678/100_6709.jpg)

Really nice!

Quote from: Hertsblue on 30 June 2012, 10:26:42 AM
Isn't he due in the House of Commons?  :P

(http://uktv.co.uk/images/homepage/51205.jpg)

Comedy genius...

NSFW?


:D

Oh - and that vehicle is top-notch  8)

Very nice vehicle...

IanS

Glad somebody picked up on it, Nik.  ;)

Oh, and congrats on the APC, Mart. Very neat.  8)

Why thank you
I have put its younger brother on the upcoming vehicles?

Great job Martin.
Cheers - Phil.

That LVTP-7 looks spot on! So what do you do, you take a bar of metal and start carving?!  :o

We're just starting to get these ready for the Birthday Bash, so thought it might be nice to throw up some pics of all the figures we've got here at the moment!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7498554034_f6d8d4b731.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7498551620_c06dc8ed50.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7116/7498549464_44c9dbc6af.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7498547640_b2e2b546fc.jpg)


8)

That's an impressive selection! All excellent sculpts! I can see some 10mm AK47 action in my future 8)

Cheers,

Kev

Su-fecking-perb!

:dance

Very, very nice 8).

SWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! Oh thank you Phil!  :D

You have been a busy bunny, Phil. Very, very nice.  =D>

Thanks Guys !
Delighted you like them. :)

Cheers - Phil.

Good stuff indeed. To port from another thread....can we have "Hermes", Invincible" etc......
Mind you would probably have to put em in silly hats.

IanS :d

Just need crew in fire retardent hoods Ian, which are very silly hats...  ;D

Phil
I am impressed very nice figures

Martin

FANTASTIC :) 

Thanks again guys !
Leon....Two lists on their way....Let me know any queries...Or if they don't arrive  ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Any news on when these beauties might appear on the website?

Got a fistfull of dosh burning a bloody great hole in my pocket ;)

Quote from: Nosher on 18 July 2012, 08:50:02 PM
Any news on when these beauties might appear on the website?

Got a fistfull of dosh burning a bloody great hole in my pocket ;)

Asap hopefully, the deluge of orders this past weekend may delay them a bit though.  I'll keep everyone updated though.

C'mon guys

Stop teasing !

I'm off to the Falklands soon and want to take these to paint while I'm down there.

Regards

Sean

I've got mine !
Sadly for me, this lot are just for converting. :'( :'(
Cheers - Phil.

You mean you don't get the author's traditional six free copies, Phil?  :o

Only if I ask for them Ray. ;D ;D ;D
The home would probably undergo gravitational collapse otherwise. ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Just noticed Dougie's painting diary and noted that the new relases are all in beret's. Will infantry in helmets be released at some point?

Para's, Cabbage Heads and crap hats humping across the falklands in Berets is cool but when they fought they fought with helmets on.

The conversions will all be done, it's just easier to start with the beret and add putty to it, rather than do a helmet and have to start grinding metal off.

Quote from: Leon on 21 July 2012, 08:10:30 PM
The conversions will all be done, it's just easier to start with the beret and add putty to it, rather than do a helmet and have to start grinding metal off.

I'm doing them, I'm doing them now......Look ! (Points mouse at work area...Like Basil Fawlty used the phone in one episode of Fawlty Towers.)  ;)
Yup....As Leon says. Quicker and easier to do the conversions this way round ! :)
Cheers - Phil.

Has anyone else noticed the number of members seem to be accelerating towards the 1000 mark at the mo' ?....Top hole chaps ! - P ;)

Phil,
Re: Special Falklands character.
Have emailed the one picture I have of the person in situ Phil, not brilliant, but it's either that or photos when he's very much older at my wedding...

That should keep the others guessing!  ;)

Got it !  ;)
Cheers - Phil.

You had Galtieri at your wedding :o

Aww, SPIT !!...
I'm supposed to be making Galtieri ? :o
That's not what you told me Lemmey. ;)
Don't think it's going to look much like him! ;) ;D

Cheers - Phil.

Can't see that one selling at all, he wasn't even in combat!  ;D

Coming soon to a website near you...  ;)

Quote from: Techno on 26 July 2012, 02:35:04 PM
Aww, SPIT !!...
I'm supposed to be making Galtieri ? :o
That's not what you told me Lemmey. ;)
Don't think it's going to look much like him! ;) ;D

Cheers - Phil.

Nah, it's a 10mm Admiral Belgrano. How wide are your doors, Phil?  :D

I could manage that in one of the barns Ray.....No sweat ! ;)
Am I going to try and make it ?....I think not !  :P
Mart can, if he wants to. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

Does he want PRE sinking or will a 10mm Lifeboat do

Regards
Mart
Nice falkands figures phil

Btw guys it's ANAGeneral Belgrano, named after the greatest hero of the Argentine War of Liberation, bought from the US Navy in 1951, were previously she was known as the luckiest ship at Pearl Harbour as she was the only ship to escape completely unscathed from the Japanese attack!.  
...and that's not who Techno is making, guess again!

USS Phoenix in WWII, Brooklyn class light cruiser.  Ugly looking beast, with more 6" guns than you could shake a stick at.  Argentinians also got  a sister ship from the US, but she was scrapped in 1978.

Mollinary (is there no end to the sadness of my anorakisms?)

Nicely put sir!
Her US name had escaped me! I would have got round to that, but my left handed typing with baby asleep on the other hand the last one took  me forever!

Just to prove Mollianry aint the worst - Phoniex has 2 claims to fame in WWII, can you name em ?

IanS

Only got the one, Pearl Harbour...  ???

Quote from: ianrs54 on 18 August 2012, 07:24:22 AM
Just to prove Mollianry aint the worst - Phoniex has 2 claims to fame in WWII, can you name em ?

IanS

"Thus a ship which had participated in the opening drama of the war in the Pacific and emerged unscathed,  and which - at the Battle of Surigao Strait -  took part in the last battleship action and the last great surface naval battle in history,  became the first large warship,  and the only cruiser,  to be sunk in action since 1945,  and  - even more notably  -  the first ship in history to be sunk in action by a nuclear submarine."

Howzat?

From here: http://www.angelfire.com/fm/odyssey/LEYTE_USS_Phoenix_.htm

Nice one!  :D

Still miossing one - MacAurthers flagship in 43?

IanS  :D

Quote from: mart678 on 17 August 2012, 05:32:54 PM
Does he want PRE sinking or will a 10mm Lifeboat do
Regards
Mart
Nice falkands figures phil

I'd go for the lifeboat Mart !... ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: mad lemmey on 17 August 2012, 06:14:07 PM
...and that's not who Techno is making, guess again!

Oooooh.... I know, I know....Do I get a prize if I get it right ? :D
(Though I suppose I DO have a very slight advantage. ;))
Cheers - Phil.

Cheers - Phil

Quote from: ianrs54 on 18 August 2012, 09:13:40 AM
Still miossing one - MacAurthers flagship in 43?

IanS  :D

Really?

"MacArthur accompanied the assault force aboard USS Phoenix, the flagship of Vice Admiral Thomas C. Kinkaid, who had recently replaced Carpender as commander of the Seventh Fleet."

From: MacArthur: America's General: Mitchell Yockelson, p167

:)

As an army general McArthur would never have had a flagship, since a) he wasn't a sailor, an b) he had no flag to hoist (not on a ship, at any rate).

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4535.jpg)

The last lot of Argies (for the time being)......Plus a generic dog dolly that I can play around with to my heart's content, once it's been moulded and cast up.
Looks ENORMOUS at this angle.....May well have to have another go with that one....Or use metal masters and do some savage surgery !.....Bummocks !!  ;) ;D
Cheers - Phil

The dog looks cracking to me!

:-bd

These look fab Techno ;)

How many argie figures are there altogether in the range now?

Hmmmm.... :-\
I was basing the height of his 'back'...against one of our labs....Who, for one of that particular breed is very tall....But I think I've gone a tad over the top ?
I'm as near as dammit 6 feet tall and "Leggy's" back comes to about 4 inches above the top of my knee.
Maybe comparing him against the most upright of the figures (Chap firing the Blowpipe) he's not quite as daft as I think ?
I can certainly 'play' with the metal masters. ;)

Quote from: Nosher on 30 August 2012, 03:52:49 PM
These look fab Techno ;)
How many argie figures are there altogether in the range now?

I've lost count Nosher....I'll try and check a bit later.
(Gosh I'm quick..I'm back already !)
Don't take this as Gospel.......But I make it I've made 51 British (including beret to helmet conversions) with three more conversions still to do for the mortar team....PLUS..Lemmey's, Leon's and my 'secret' figure......So 55 British in total ?
And I make it 18 Argentinian......Don't think I'm due to convert those.

Still a very small number to do for both sides for some of the artillery.

Cheers - Phil.

Well we know it had the potential to be a one sided conflict, but nearly 3-1 in favour of the British!!  :D

They look great Phil, and I want that dog as is please :D

Cheers,

Kev

Quote from: Squirrel on 30 August 2012, 05:19:28 PM
They look great Phil, and I want that dog as is please :D
Kev

It'll probably need a smidgeon of tidying up first Kev.
I was really only doing this one as a plain dolly to see what it came out like.
The MkI WAS a real whopper and got binned almost as soon as I started. #:-S...(Imagine the Hound of the Baskervilles' crossed with a small pony. ;)  ;D

But I expect Leon will see what it looks like 'fresh from the mould'....Who knows...It might come out OK 'as is'. :-\

Cheers - Phil

Looking good Phil  8)

Cheers Nik !

Nice ones, Phil. Almost makes me want to rush out and start collecting the necessary troops.... no, down, boy, down!  :D

You know you want to Ray. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Nice Phil

The Argies will work well for cold war Canadians(SLR) and Danish and West Germans(G3) only need a tripod mounted MG 42 with crew in yank lids and a bipod mounted version

Great work Phil like the dog I just made a Hunting Poodle in another scale

Martin

Thanks Martin.

Oooh...send me a piccy of the poodle...I'd like to see that.
Cheers - Phil.

Argentinians had Alsatians/ German Shepherds 14 dogs in total, unit was Marines K9 ( :o) under Lt Paz based at Felton Stream. Source: Razors Edge page 351

Quote from: Gran76 on 31 August 2012, 11:44:16 AM
Argentinians had Alsatians/ German Shepherds 14 dogs in total, unit was Marines K9 ( :o) under Lt Paz based at Felton Stream. Source: Razors Edge page 351

I'm hoping that 'Fido' will eventually make a decent German Shepherd amongst other 'breeds' of a similar-ish size....Hopefully he'll have a few uses in different periods and genres.
Fingers crossed. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Zombie dogs  8) What about since Falklands is 1982 and The Thing came out that year would make a good game?

Quote from: Gran76 on 31 August 2012, 03:01:32 PM
Zombie dogs  8) What about since Falklands is 1982 and The Thing came out that year would make a good game?

Ironically Gran...That was my initial idea for doing the canine dolly......So there's every chance of those. ;)
Must get him off in the post tomorrow....Along with everything else !!

Cheers - Phil.

Are some of the Argies going to be in trenches as most of the fighting would have them this way?

Thanks
Richard

Quote from: rct75001 on 03 September 2012, 08:01:26 AM
Are some of the Argies going to be in trenches as most of the fighting would have them this way?

Thanks
Richard

Now that's a good question y'know....Phil, I'd second this request - although, at a (long, stretch-of-the-imagination push) I guess we could use some of the WW1/2 fellas...not ideal though

Quote from: Techno on 30 August 2012, 07:23:32 PM
It'll probably need a smidgeon of tidying up first Kev.
I was really only doing this one as a plain dolly to see what it came out like.
The MkI WAS a real whopper and got binned almost as soon as I started. #:-S...(Imagine the Hound of the Baskervilles' crossed with a small pony. ;)  ;D

But I expect Leon will see what it looks like 'fresh from the mould'....Who knows...It might come out OK 'as is'. :-\

Cheers - Phil

Looks perfect for a 'Scooby Doo' to me :D

Cheers,

Kev

Have you got any pics of something 'like wot you mean' Nik ?
I can find a trench reference in the WWII section....But there's no actual photo.
I'll be more than happy to make them if Leon wants.
I presume I'd be allowed to do mega fast conversions .....i.e chop some of the wee chaps in half, (or lower/higher) then make a 'low earthworks' so it looks like they're standing in a trench ?
That the sort of thing you mean ?
A bit like the 50 cal M/G that's sitting in a foxhole that I've already done .....But with three or so figures ?
Like I say....Up to 'the man'.  ;)

Quote from: Squirrel on 03 September 2012, 08:47:04 PM
Looks perfect for a 'Scooby Doo' to me :D
Cheers,
Kev

No Scooby Snax for you Kev ! ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 03 September 2012, 08:55:14 PM
I presume I'd be allowed to do mega fast conversions .....i.e chop some of the wee chaps in half, (or lower/higher) then make a 'low earthworks' so it looks like they're standing in a trench ?

A bit like the 50 cal M/G that's sitting in a foxhole that I've already done .....But with three or so figures ?

Yep, that sounds about right to me.  Dave's done some before, for the Boer range, and the WWII somewhere as well I think.  Chop down some firing poses and stick 'em in a
hole!

:D

Quote from: Leon on 03 September 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Yep, that sounds about right to me.  Dave's done some before, for the Boer range, and the WWII somewhere as well I think.  Chop down some firing poses and stick 'em in a
hole!

:D

Yep - that's it  8) You can see the Germans in the WW1 diorama I did a while ago for Leon:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1863.0.html

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/ww1%2010mm%20diorama/STA40664.jpg)

Ask Barrie, he has some amazing photo recon shots of a harrier pass over an Argentine trench line!
All you can see is their feet sticking out, nice until you realise they also used their trench lines as latrines!!!

Quote from: Leon on 03 September 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Yep, that sounds about right to me.  Dave's done some before, for the Boer range, and the WWII somewhere as well I think.  Chop down some firing poses and stick 'em in a
hole!
:D

Could you bung me down some of the Brits with the helmets when they're pressed Leon ?......Or would this be just for the Argies ?
Should have enough spare masters of them to do those ! :)
Cheers - Phil

Er....something like this....Or have I completely lost the plot ?
Mairion's been trying to help me shrink the images myself....But I'm failing diismally :'( :'( :'(
Would someone do the honours to about 2/3 the size for me ?

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k611/technodestructorman/IMGP4579_zps04928247.jpg)

Back to the drawing board....I'm trying to understand honestly Meirion !
I'm obviously a complete numpty !
Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 24 September 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Meirion's been trying to help me shrink the images myself....But I'm failing diismally :'( :'( :'(
Would someone do the honours to about 2/3 the size for me ?

On the photo sizes, what you need to do is to put in a width tag on the image code.  So, when you copy and paste the bit of code for your picture, it will start off with [IMG]http.... etc.  What you need to do is insert 'width=xxx' into those brackets, so you end up with something like [IMG width=500]http..... etc.  The number itself is a measure of the pixel width on the screen and can be varied depending on how big you'd like the image, with 1000 being the full width of the page normally, and 100 being rather small.  

You can always come back and edit the width tag if your image isn't displaying as you'd like (for upto half an hour after you've made the post I believe?)

Hope that makes sense!   :D

ermm he could also express it as a percentage of the screen width as well, well that works in the <IMG width=50%> tag in html, havent tried it on the forum. Worth trying out for those of us with bigger monitors and failing eyesight.

Quote from: GordonY on 24 September 2012, 05:28:08 PM
ermm he could also express it as a percentage of the screen width as well, well that works in the <IMG width=50%> tag in html, havent tried it on the forum. Worth trying out for those of us with bigger monitors and failing eyesight.

Nah, I've just given it a go, but with the Forum using BBCode it messes up and won't recognise the image.

Quote from: Leon on 24 September 2012, 05:14:53 PM
On the photo sizes, what you need to do is to put in a width tag on the image code.  So, when you copy and paste the bit of code for your picture, it will start off with [IMG]http.... etc.  What you need to do is insert 'width=xxx' into those brackets, so you end up with something like [IMG width=500]http..... etc.  The number itself is a measure of the pixel width on the screen and can be varied depending on how big you'd like the image, with 1000 being the full width of the page normally, and 100 being rather small.  

You can always come back and edit the width tag if your image isn't displaying as you'd like (for upto half an hour after you've made the post I believe?)

Hope that makes sense!   :D

Make me Techno's personal moderator and I'll keep an eye on him!   :d

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 24 September 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Make me Techno's personal moderator and I'll keep an eye on him!   :d

:D

I'll go see if we've got that setting on the Admin...

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 24 September 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Make me Techno's personal moderator and I'll keep an eye on him!   :d

@-) @-) @-) @-) @-)

I will obey the moderators commands... @-) @-) @-) @-)I will obey the moderators commands (ad nauseam)
I think I've got the hang now...I'll pop up some very early wips of the ancient Spanish tomorrow and see if I have got it through my thick skull. :-[ :-[
'Ere....no-one's said whether I'm on the right lines with the Argentinians in the trenches. ;)
Thanks to whoever shrunk the piccy !

Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 24 September 2012, 08:47:47 PM
'Ere....no-one's said whether I'm on the right lines with the Argentinians in the trenches. ;)

You're on the right lines Phil - although the single figure looks a bit 'jaunty' to me - nonchalantly leaning on his trench & staring out to sea...bit casual if you ask me: especially if 2 Para have just appeared on the horizon  :d

I like them!  :D

Quote from: nikharwood on 24 September 2012, 09:23:27 PM
You're on the right lines Phil - although the single figure looks a bit 'jaunty' to me - nonchalantly leaning on his trench & staring out to sea...bit casual if you ask me: especially if 2 Para have just appeared on the horizon  :d

Ta Nik....
I think I might bin that one....Doesn't really seem to work does it ?
Still not convinced about the group of three either......Something doesn't seem quite right....But for the life of me I can't decide what I don't like about it. :-\
Maybe it would look fine, once painted up. :-\
Possibly the bright red putty is putting me off.
I'll put it on one side and wait to get hit by a bolt of inspiration.

Cheers - Phil.

Quote from: Techno on 25 September 2012, 07:24:18 AM
Ta Nik....
I think I might bin that one....Doesn't really seem to work does it ?
Still not convinced about the group of three either......Something doesn't seem quite right....But for the life of me I can't decide what I don't like about it. :-\
Maybe it would look fine, once painted up. :-\
Possibly the bright red putty is putting me off.
I'll put it on one side and wait to get hit by a bolt of inspiration.

Cheers - Phil.

They all seem a bit upright, kind of more, 'chatting with your mates whilst on your first Army Cadets exercise' rather than 'hunkered down waiting to see the whites of their eyes whilst hell rains about you' - although the chap in the middle is at least trying to take it seriously!

I think the advacing (?) guy on the left of the trio needs to go - possily only poses with rifle raised will work - and their torsos need to be more angled so they look as if they're laying rather than standing in a hole.  Hope that helps.

Cheers!

Meirion

I think you're totally right Meirion.
I was trying to do a really quick 'conversion' and personally I don't think it looks anything like 'zippy' enough as it is.
Like I say, I'll stick it on one side and leave it for a while and hopefully come back to it at some stage.
Seemed like a good and quick idea at the time, and I thought I could make it work.....Hey Ho....Not to worry. ;)
Cheers - Phil.

Yep - I think Meirion has nailed it; they look fine, just not fighting-ready. The point about rifles raised & less upright is the key I think.

I have only just noticed, but there doesn't seem to be any rifleman with 66mm LAW.

Would it be possible Phil/Leon to do a pack of these for attaching (glueing) to the figures?

The 66 was issued in the same way as other ammo being a one shot and throw away weapon. I know it was used during assaults as a long range grenade substitute to suppress defences i.e. provide a bang to keep defenders heads down while the rifleman were up and moving.

:)