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Title: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: far4ngn on 03 August 2024, 04:46:02 AM
Any chance of creating some 10mm Polish Cossack Pancerini or Winged Hussars mounted figures that I could use for mounting to the DAN-MON20 Saddled Bears?
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Big Insect on 06 August 2024, 04:11:38 PM
Might need to be a 'tad' careful about this, as a certain global wargames figure empire (based in Nottingham) might consider that you are trying to replicate their 'Kislev' range. Just an observation, of course  :-\
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: fred. on 06 August 2024, 06:56:28 PM
Bear cavalry come from other sources too
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Big Insect on 06 August 2024, 08:18:21 PM
Quote from: fred. on 06 August 2024, 06:56:28 PMBear cavalry come from other sources too

Yes of course, but the polish renaissance looki-liki is very close/similar/the same as the GW Kislev.
I'm sure GW would be very happy to argue that, in court, at Leon's expense  :o  :'(  :'(  :'(
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Orcs on 06 August 2024, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 06 August 2024, 08:18:21 PMYes of course, but the polish renaissance looki-liki is very close/similar/the same as the GW Kislev.
I'm sure GW would be very happy to argue that, in court, at Leon's expense  :o  :'(  :'(  :'(
Yes but they would also have to take to court all the other "similar" 3d sculpts out there as well
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Big Insect on 06 August 2024, 10:11:29 PM
Quote from: Orcs on 06 August 2024, 09:25:23 PMYes but they would also have to take to court all the other "similar" 3d sculpts out there as well

OK ... we are drifting into the whole issue of copyright protection strategy here.

However, as we have seen previously, GW will usually 'go-after' a manufacturer that they think is copying their designs, rather than an individual sculptor, as they believe that the manufacturer will either respond positively to their 'cease & desist' letter - in fear of the cost of a legal battle, regardless of whether they might think they can win or would loose. GW knows that the smaller manufacturer doesn't have the same deep pockets as GWs patent & copyright protection, but does have more potential cash to pay any claim GW wins.
An individual sculptor or 3D print supplier (on Etsy or eBay for example) will get the same letter, but GW are only likely to pursue that individual if they start to manufacture in bulk, and we have seen such individuals closed down by GW - either via eBay or Etsy sites as the sites don't want a reputation for hosting counterfeit or breach of copyright products/manufacturers.
It's a risk that is just not worth taking for a smaller figure manufacturer. It's harder if you are Battlefront, as the products are historical. But even they have won such cases based around the way a looki-likki product has been marketed.
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Scolty on 08 August 2024, 02:07:42 PM
The world is crying out for a 10mm Wellington in India range... ;)
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: far4ngn on 16 September 2024, 04:06:03 AM
Ok I just need to pair of legs to fit in the saddle and I can cut/glue my own riders from any range :)  WW1 bear cavalry anyone?
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 September 2024, 04:44:31 AM
They aren't cavalry if they're riding bears. Ursury? (I realise there are problems with that term.)
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: fred. on 16 September 2024, 06:46:10 AM
Is cavalry a strictly horse term? Thinking of mechanised cavalry who travel in tanks, helicopters or APCs?
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 September 2024, 07:56:29 AM
Quote from: fred. on 16 September 2024, 06:46:10 AMIs cavalry a strictly horse term? Thinking of mechanised cavalry who travel in tanks, helicopters or APCs?

Italian: un cavallo = a horsey. So, to answer your not-unjustifiable query, if it isn't, it ought to be.

Note that even WRG, not noted for their respectful attitude toward linguistic correctness, employ the distinction of camelry.
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: fred. on 16 September 2024, 07:56:11 PM
So a quick search suggests we are both right (isn't English a great language)

Historical soldiers who fought on horseback. Modern usage, soldiers who fight from armoured vehicles. 

But of no real use for determining what soldiers mounted on bears should be described as. Camelry is certainly used, but also Camel Cavalry, and other <species> cavalry seems quite common usage. 

I think bear cavalry is pretty unambiguous. 

Centaur cavalry though...
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2024, 01:47:08 AM
Quote....Centaur cavalry though...

And what do horses call fighting either as a half human, or indeed as someone carrying a human?

And fusiliers seldom used fusils, grenadiers haven't been distinguished by their grenades for centuries, principes weren't first-line troops, hastati didn't use hastas in the modern sense, the furnction of a destroyer is to escort, not destroy, I'm not really very fierce, there are Highland regiments out there most of whose troops have never set foot in Scotland, a stealth fighter is a type of bomber, the Ever-Victorious Army lost many a battle, Pancerni Cossacks and Nemetski (German) regiments were usually native Poles, Napoleon had foot cuirassiers, and if I can quote from memory, le Camp's Lest Darkness Fall has a time-travelling American observing Justinian's army and reflecting "an army of mixed Hun and Asia Minor mercenaries commanded by a Thracian under a Dalmatian autocrat who didn't even control the city of Rome called itself the Army of the Roman Republic and saw nothing odd in the fact...."
Title: Re: Polish Rennaisance Riders to suit FAN-MON20 Saddled Bears
Post by: Leon on 19 February 2025, 09:08:53 PM
Votes added!