First off Brian Ansell - reported as a separate topic
That was last year. 30th Dec
David Soul at 80....
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 January 2024, 04:01:15 PMDavid Soul at 80....
Just saw that. Only a couple of days back I downloaded and watched an episode of Starsky and Hutch; the first time I had had watched it since the 70s
:'(
Glynis Johns at 100
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/jan/05/glynis-johns-dead-mrs-banks-mary-poppins
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Franz Beckenbauer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67917047
JPR Williams. Full back, Bridgend, Wales, British Lions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67912287 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67912287)
JPR Williams, what a player and a true rugby great :( .
A rugby God
:(
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 05 January 2024, 09:19:24 PMGlynis Johns at 100
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/jan/05/glynis-johns-dead-mrs-banks-mary-poppins
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She still has a fan base. The DVD of Miranda her Mermaid Movie is going for 83 quid on Amazon
Quote from: Gwydion on 08 January 2024, 08:58:24 PMJPR Williams. Full back, Bridgend, Wales, British Lions.
Just seen this sad news. The first of the modern running full-backs on which they are all modelled these days. Every so-often a sportman or woman really changes the game they play and he was one of them. What a team the Welsh one of the 70s was, even as an Englishman they were a joy to watch. I will have to dust off my DVD of the Barbarians v All Blacks 1973.
It was only late last year that The Oldie magazine had an article about Glynis Johns being about to turn a hundred.
Geoff 8)
Annie Nightingale!
OMG
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/jan/12/annie-nightingale-radio-1-dj-dies-aged-83?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3ELNFVKc7Sy0Z_Hov9q4KKtWKN3xhCJn8sfPvgFYUp5M259GLNQ_rZpdo#Echobox=1705066569
Copied from Faceache - I'm sure that many of the older members of the group will own at least one of these books, or one of many others by the same author. It may surprise you to discover that Otto von Pika was not the lesser son of a minor noble house of a forgotten European state, nor a refugee from the East, but was at the time of writing a serving British Army officer by the name of Digby Smith. Digby Smith passed away on 9 January 2024. So, raise a glass to one of the old guard of British military historians and wargamers.
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 January 2024, 09:38:17 AMCopied from Faceache - I'm sure that many of the older members of the group will own at least one of these books, or one of many others by the same author. It may surprise you to discover that Otto von Pika was not the lesser son of a minor noble house of a forgotten European state, nor a refugee from the East, but was at the time of writing a serving British Army officer by the name of Digby Smith. Digby Smith passed away on 9 January 2024. So, raise a glass to one of the old guard of British military historians and wargamers.
I believe my first bought uniform book was an Osprey Von Pivka. A prolific author, and a great loss.
Awww! I have so many books by both von Pivka and Smith.
One of the books that actually changed my life was Armies of thge Napoleonic Wars.
RIP, a great author and source.
Read the news on The Napoleonic Wars Forum yesterday. He was 89 apparently.
RIP Director Norman Jewison, 97, responsible for "In the heat of the night" and "Fiddler on the Roof" among many others. I never knew he was a Canadian!
Two of my all time favourite films. What a legacy and a great innings too.
Sorry to hear he's gone. Loved many of those films though Jesus Christ Superstar is the main one I think of in connection with him.
Coming fast this year... Melanie (Safka), only 76, folk singer and veteran of Woodstock famous for "Brand New Key" and a better version of "Ruby Tuesday" than Jagger's
Carl Andre - Minimalist Pioneer Sculpture (he of 'pile of bricks' fame) has died at the age of 88.
Quote from: Peterem on 25 January 2024, 01:30:07 PMComing fast this year... Melanie (Safka), only 76, folk singer and veteran of Woodstock famous for "Brand New Key" and a better version of "Ruby Tuesday" than Jagger's
Saw her in concert - the Edinburgh audience was so .... Edinburgh that she walked off part way through the set in despair at the lack of rapport.
She tried to get some of the audience to come up on stage to sit adoringly around her feet but, alas, picked on one of our party early on in the process and he replied loudly,"Naw, yer a'right hen, ah'm only here cuz ma mates wanted tae come." Kind of set the tone for the evening.
I think what finished it for her was when she asked for suggestions for her next song and someone shouted out,"Big Yellow Taxi." Which as any fule kno is a Joni Mitchell song.
I loved her stuff and regularly listened to her, Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell among other female artistes in my twenties. Then I discovered Heavy Metal and Native American tribal music.
My musical tastes are increasingly eclectic!
There's been little music worth listening to since the early 19th century. I have spoken.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 January 2024, 04:59:14 AMThere's been little music worth listening to since the early 19th century. I have spoken.
Nobby speaks.
We don't listen to him...
QuoteThere's was little music worth listening to until the mid-20th century. I have spoken.
FIFY :)
Or to quote Gilbert and Sullivan -
Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
....
You may put 'em on the list — you may put 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed!
:d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d
Friend of mine is in a Beatles Tribute band - we tell him the Beatles were a Rutles Tribute band.
Brian Lumley - horror author and I am reliably informed all round decent bloke.
Carl Weathers (76). American footballer and actor, best known for playing Apollo Creed in the Rocky movies, and Dillon in Predator.
On no!
He was also excellent in The Mandalorian!
One a bit closer to home for our hobby, Graham Cummings passed away today, former owner of Crann Tara Miniatures and generally nice bloke. Visitors to Partizan will probably have seen some of his games there over the years.
:( Condolences to family, friends and those who knew him
Aston Barrett (1946-2024), bass guitarist for Bob Marley and the Wailers, and others.
Barry John, Welsh rugby legend :'( :'( :'( .
"They broke the mould,
of solid gold,
that once made Barry John".
:(
Quote from: Steve J on 04 February 2024, 05:44:21 PMBarry John, Welsh rugby legend
Another one gone! There were so many of that era.
:(
Ian Lavender
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68204488
SAd loss
The curse of Dad's Army strikes again.
Michael Jayston, 88, described by Sky as "Only Fools and Horses actor" despite only appearing in one episode as Raquel's dad. Only a brief mention of his title role in the film "Nicholas & Alexandra" and nothing on his role as Peter Gwyllim in the classic TV "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy".
A lot of sad news today. Michael Jayston also appeared memorably as Henry Ireton in the film Cromwell. Ian Lavender was a local round here, who I occasionally saw in Sainsbury's. January and February certainly are cruel months.
QuoteMichael Jayston, 88, described by Sky as "Only Fools and Horses actor" despite only appearing in one episode as Raquel's dad. Only a brief mention of his title role in the film "Nicholas & Alexandra" and nothing on his role as Peter Gwyllim in the classic TV "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy".
Damn! My ex was a big fan, we met him on the tube once when we were in London, soon after he'd starred in "Nicholas and Alexandra", and he was just a lovely man.
I knew Michael Jayston's son, Tom, when I lived in Brighton. I'll have to see if I can get in touch with him.
Also th other day, Wayne Kramer (MC5).
Very sad, he has done loads of audio books as weel
The BBC Radio DJ, Steve Wright (69) - a year younger than me. Time's wingèd chariot ....
Just saw the news and rather shocked to be honest...
An absolute constant and a radio legend
For the older-school gamers among us, apparently the founder of Jacklex Miniatures passed away yesterday as well. He made it to an impressive 95 though, so not a bad age at all. There's some info on TMP: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=576671
QuoteThe BBC Radio DJ, Steve Wright (69) - a year younger than me. Time's wingèd chariot ....
:(
Robin Windsor from Strictly Come Dancing, aged only 44!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68346057
Stan Bowles (75). 1970's footballer, best known for playing for QPR during their heyday.
Nobody here seems to have noticed the murder of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny on 16 February 2024.
Quote from: John Cook on 25 February 2024, 12:41:29 AMNobody here seems to have noticed the murder of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny on 16 February 2024.
I suppose I think of this thread as more "deaths you might have missed." To miss Navalny's death you'd need to be living inside a faraday cage, in a cave, under a mountain!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 25 February 2024, 10:08:31 AMI suppose I think of this thread as more "deaths you might have missed." To miss Navalny's death you'd need to be living inside a faraday cage, in a cave, under a mountain!
You are right about Navalny, although Steve Wright had similar coverage and Stan Bowles and Robin Windsor both got comprehensive coverage on the media, yet people felt moved enough to post their passing here. I was just surprised when I took a look at the thread that Navalny didn't get a mention yet somebody who was once a dancer on Strictly, who I'd never heard of, did. You have to be a fan I suppose.
Quote from: John Cook on 25 February 2024, 11:07:45 AMYou are right about Navalny, although Steve Wright had similar coverage and Stan Bowles and Robin Windsor both got comprehensive coverage on the media, yet people felt moved enough to post their passing here. I was just surprised when I took a look at the thread that Navalny didn't get a mention yet somebody who was once a dancer on Strictly, who I'd never heard of, did. You have to be a fan I suppose.
And yet I missed Stan Bowles and Robin Windsor, both. Depends where you get your news I guess.
But, for the record, I am both saddened and outraged by the death of Navalny.
Quote from: John Cook on 25 February 2024, 12:41:29 AMNobody here seems to have noticed the murder of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny on 16 February 2024.
Only surprise there was that he didn't manage to stab himself in the back and then commit 'suicide' from an 8th floor window... I'd say that the world will be a better place once Putin has gone but these days you don't know what kind of worse loons are waiting in the wings to take over.
Stan Bowles was unique. Described in the paper today as "Messi with a fag in his left hand, a lager top in the other and a racing paper in his back pocket", he once collected a winning bet in his full QPR kit before a match and put his record-breakingly abysmal performance in "Superstars" down to a bad hangover from drinking with James Hunt the night before. They really don't make them like that any more.
Quote from: Leon on 25 February 2024, 11:15:18 PMOnly surprise there was that he didn't manage to stab himself in the back and then commit 'suicide' from an 8th floor window... I'd say that the world will be a better place once Putin has gone but these days you don't know what kind of worse loons are waiting in the wings to take over.
You've got that right. With a loony in the Kremlin and the prospect of another one in the White House, we have nothing to worry about do we. Never a fan of the idea of a European army, I'm not so sure now.
QuoteNever a fan of the idea of a European army, I'm not so sure now.
Have to say that researching for my Imagi-Nations wargaming project I stumbled upon the Defence forces of the European Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_forces_of_the_European_Union#:~:text=The%20European%20Corps%20(Eurocorps)%20is,the%20Dutch%20and%20German%20armies.) wikipage & found it quite interesting.
Obviously, I'm not going to go into real-world geopolitics nor possible logistical or lingual problems, but, yeah, the idea of a United European Army is quite an interesting idea.
Quote from: Roy on 28 February 2024, 07:14:21 PMHave to say that researching for my Imagi-Nations wargaming project I stumbled upon the Defence forces of the European Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_forces_of_the_European_Union#:~:text=The%20European%20Corps%20(Eurocorps)%20is,the%20Dutch%20and%20German%20armies.) wikipage & found it quite interesting.
Obviously, I'm not going to go into real-world geopolitics nor possible logistical or lingual problems, but, yeah, the idea of a United European Army is quite an interesting idea.
The argument against an EU army was twofold, first by those for whom the EU was an anathema and nothing else mattered, and second by those who argued that NATO already fulfilled the role. As for real-world issue, they are hard to ignore I think. With the distinct possibility of a Trump presidency and the US becoming an even more unreliable ally than it is already, an alternative alliance seems essential. With most, if not all, European countries already in NATO, linguistic and logisitc issues would not seem that great. Sooner or later, unless something happens to change attitudes in Moscow, I fear that a war with Russia is a distinct possibility.
Hairy Biker - Dave Myers, only 66. :( :o
Paul
:'(
Quote from: T13A on 29 February 2024, 11:46:09 AMHairy Biker - Dave Myers, only 66. :( :o
Paul
Very sad. Just been following their latest series on TV.
Quote from: T13A on 29 February 2024, 11:46:09 AMHairy Biker - Dave Myers, only 66. :( :o
Paul
A great shame, a genuinely nice bloke.
Steve Harley, Cockney Rebel, aged 73.
Probably best known for 'Make Me Smile' (Come up and see me), and Cockney Rebel's cover of 'Here Comes the Sun'. :(
Oh no!
That's a great shame.😞
Administrators - I read this thread eagerly with every new post, hoping to see the names of the Orange Duck and Vlad the Bad. Nothing yet. Please do something about this situation.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 18 March 2024, 02:38:05 AMAdministrators - I read this thread eagerly with every new post, hoping to see the names of the Orange Duck and Vlad the Bad. Nothing yet. Please do something about this situation.
Administrators, not assassins...
QuoteAdministrators - I read this thread eagerly with every new post, hoping to see the names of the Orange Duck and Vlad the Bad. Nothing yet. Please do something about this situation.
"The Orange Duck"? Does that mean the person I think it means? The guy with a couple of legal cases? ;D
Yes. As someone with a keen delight in the game of bridge, I avoid using the whoreson's name.
At my friend's funeral today, he fulfilled his promise, and was taken out of the church to the theme to 'Catch That Pigeon' to much hilarity around the congregation.
He was a good man
A soprano friend of mine sang some Cole Porter at my father's last rites. My Mum's idea. Half the attendees were shocked, half delighted.
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 March 2024, 03:50:44 PMAt my friend's funeral today, he fulfithis promise, and was taken out of the church to the theme to 'Catch That Pigeon' to much hilarity around the congregation.
He was a good man
Hero! ;D ;D
I have said to my kids that they might like to consider having my casket brought in to "The Imperial March" from Star Wars and to have The Eagles' "Journey of the Sorcerer" in it's guise as the theme for The Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy at the close.
Death is far too important to be taken seriously!
the most unique funeral I have gone to saw us carry out my good friend Rob's casket with "Bat out of Hell" being played "loudly" in accordance with his last wishes.
Unsurprisingly Rob was a great Meatloaf fan. A few months before he past Rob got to meet him in person when Meatloaf was touring in NZ for the final time. That certainly ticked quite a few boxes on Rob's bucket list :)
It's got to be 'Brothers in Arms' by Dire Straights at the end of my funeral - not a dry eye in the house :'(
If you want tears, "Bright Eyes" by Art Garfunkel.
Add "Wonderful World" and "We Have All the Time in the World", both by Louis Armstrong, for extra effect.
Hi
Michael Culver died back in February: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Culver
One of those faces from TV in the past.
Paul
A friend of mine who died after a short struggle with cancer had The Eagles 'Hotel California' to open the proceedings and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's 'Fire' to wind them up. Needless to say he was not religious.
OJ Simpson
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 April 2024, 03:48:16 PMOJ Simpson
A brilliant football player with a brilliant defense attorney.
I've noticed the BBC keep saying OJ was "cleared".
A verdict of Not Guilty is not the same as someone imagining they have been cleared.
To be fair, plenty of people also say this - despite the fact it is not correct.
Cheers,
Geoff
Isn't it?
If a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?
I only see the guilty ones.
Quote from: Gwydion on 12 April 2024, 08:37:28 AMIf a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?
Surely he is dead now, so innocent/ guilty / acquitted, does not bother him any more
Akebono. :(
Thanks for posting someone who is 3 months younger than me...
Quote from: Orcs on 12 April 2024, 10:44:27 AMSurely he is dead now, so innocent/ guilty / acquitted, does not bother him any more
Doesn't bother him, doesn't bother me, it seemed to be bothering Ellie's dad. I just wondered why?
Quote from: Gwydion on 12 April 2024, 08:37:28 AMIf a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?
Simpson was acquitted in the criminal trial, however Simpson was also found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit.
Quote from: streetgang on 12 April 2024, 06:59:55 PMSimpson was acquitted in the criminal trial, however Simpson was also found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit.
Schrödinger's criminal?
A civil action with a different standard of proof - balance of probabilities vice beyond reasonable doubt.
He remained not guilty of murder in criminal law and - at that point - a free man.
Quote from: Gwydion on 12 April 2024, 10:52:34 PMA civil action with a different standard of proof - balance of probabilities vice beyond reasonable doubt.
He remained not guilty of murder in criminal law and - at that point - a free man.
Indeed. He was deemed not guilty in a criminal sense and yet he was liable for their deaths in the civil manner. So his being "cleared" (whatever that is) only applies in one sense (the criminal).
"Cleared" is not a legal term for an outcome that I have ever heard professionally in 22+ years dealing with these matters.
When I did jury service, over 15 years ago now, the judge told us that we had to "be sure" before we could return our verdict, or words to that effect. When we retired three barrack room lawyers on the jury embarked on a heated argument on what "being sure" meant and, presumably brought up on TV courtroom dramas, asked if "being sure" was the same as "beyond reasonable doubt". Our foreman asked the question and we were told that "being sure" had replaced "beyond reasonable doubt" to avoid confusion in the minds of jurors, and because the term "beyond reasonable doubt" implied that a degree of doubt still remained. Anyway, in the case of OJ, I ran out of s***s to give many years ago but in a common sense context, I have no confusion where the meaning of "cleared" and "acquitted" is concerned.
Quote from: streetgang on 12 April 2024, 11:22:48 PMIndeed. He was deemed not guilty in a criminal sense and yet he was liable for their deaths in the civil manner. So his being "cleared" (whatever that is) only applies in one sense (the criminal).
"Cleared" is not a legal term for an outcome that I have ever heard professionally in 22+ years dealing with these matters.
One of the jurors said they knew he was guilty but wanted to stick it to "the man" so found him not guilty, for Afro American solidarity...
Anecdote time:
A relative was on the jury for an attempted murder trial. On the third day the (alleged) victim was called to give evidence. The young woman sitting next to my relative whispered to him "I thought he was dead?".
Quote from: Raider4 on 13 April 2024, 10:42:57 AMAnecdote time:
A relative was on the jury for an attempted murder trial. On the third day the (alleged) victim was called to give evidence. The young woman sitting next to my relative whispered to him "I thought he was dead?".
"He used to say that the lot of Emperors was most unfortunate, since when they discovered a conspiracy, no one believed them unless they had been murdered" - Suetonius, of the Emperor Domitian
Quote from: John Cook on 13 April 2024, 01:56:44 AMWhen I did jury service, over 15 years ago now, the judge told us that we had to "be sure" before we could return our verdict, or words to that effect. When we retired three barrack room lawyers on the jury embarked on a heated argument on what "being sure" meant and, presumably brought up on TV courtroom dramas, asked if "being sure" was the same as "beyond reasonable doubt". Our foreman asked the question and we were told that "being sure" had replaced "beyond reasonable doubt" to avoid confusion in the minds of jurors, and because the term "beyond reasonable doubt" implied that a degree of doubt still remained. Anyway, in the case of OJ, I ran out of s***s to give many years ago but in a common sense context, I have no confusion where the meaning of "cleared" and "acquitted" is concerned.
My understanding is that the burden of proof in criminal cases remains exactly as it has always been and the judges in Crown Court simply changed the terminology for jurors because, as you say, many were believed to be confused by the phrase 'beyond reasonable doubt'. Both phrases describe the same concept, and I can't but wonder if this isn't a tad patronising, believing non-professionals to be unable to grasp such elevated language.
The above anecdote suggests that some can't understand the concept of attempted #-o :-<
Quote from: Gwydion on 13 April 2024, 02:53:45 PM...... I can't but wonder if this isn't a tad patronising, believing non-professionals to be unable to grasp such elevated language.
Not sure about that. You only have to look at any TV quiz show to realise that there is a significant proportion of the population who are as thick as the proverbial. A few of them were on the same juries that I was.
QuoteWhen I did jury service, over 15 years ago now, the judge told us that we had to "be sure" before we could return our verdict, or words to that effect. When we retired three barrack room lawyers on the jury embarked on a heated argument on what "being sure" meant and, presumably brought up on TV courtroom dramas, asked if "being sure" was the same as "beyond reasonable doubt". Our foreman asked the question and we were told that "being sure" had replaced "beyond reasonable doubt" to avoid confusion in the minds of jurors, and because the term "beyond reasonable doubt" implied that a degree of doubt still remained. Anyway, in the case of OJ, I ran out of s***s to give many years ago but in a common sense context, I have no confusion where the meaning of "cleared" and "acquitted" is concerned.
Based on my own experience of being a juror on a murder trial back in 2009 I completely agree with John on this one with the added proviso that it appeared to me at least that some of my fellow jurors simply did not want to take responsibility for finding someone 'guilty of murder'.
Despite clear instructions from the judge about basing our decision only on the evidence presented in court, precise and clear testimony from several 'expert witnesses' several of the juror's persisted in bringing up "what if's" and "maybes" not based on anything that was said during the trial. In this case I am sure that the family of the deceased did not get the justice they deserved and the defendant did indeed get away with murder.
My experience at the time left me quite depressed about the 'system'.
Paul
It's a known problem with humans, they tend to think the best of people. It does make the fighters dangerous; it's not so much they are necessarily "technically good" at fighting, for some of them they just don't have the normal filters that make them stop and think first. They punch first, punch second, and possibly think later. And that can just be to justify the punches.
Quote from: T13A on 14 April 2024, 07:16:57 AM.........My experience at the time left me quite depressed about the 'system'.
Paul
I empathise. I sat on three juries over a two week period. On one, a fellow juror refused to convict on the grounds that he disagreed with the British legal system and would never convict anybody brought before it. He shouldn't have been doing jury duty with that attitude. Fortunately the judge accepted an 11:1 verdict and justice was done.
Quote from: John Cook on 14 April 2024, 09:30:08 AMOn one, a fellow juror refused to convict on the grounds that he disagreed with the British legal system and would never convict anybody brought before it.
I believe if you state the above when called for jury service, they will dismiss you. Years ago a colleague at work was called and said as much so that he was dismissed as attending was going to cost him a fortune financially.
QuoteBased on my own experience of being a juror on a murder trial back in 2009 I completely agree with John on this one with the added proviso that it appeared to me at least that some of my fellow jurors simply did not want to take responsibility for finding someone 'guilty of murder'.
Despite clear instructions from the judge about basing our decision only on the evidence presented in court, precise and clear testimony from several 'expert witnesses' several of the juror's persisted in bringing up "what if's" and "maybes" not based on anything that was said during the trial. In this case I am sure that the family of the deceased did not get the justice they deserved and the defendant did indeed get away with murder.
My experience at the time left me quite depressed about the 'system'.
Paul
Yes, my experience about ten years earlier was similarly depressing, although that case was only of assault. The unwillingness of some jurors to take responsibility, which they had irrespective of an innocent or guilty verdict, was most depressing. I consoled myself with the argument that the innocent verdict was because the prosecution had failed to convince the jury, although it seemed to me to be a clear case that should have taken two minutes to resolve as guilty. Talking with a senior policeman friend afterwards, he confirmed that for most people their exposure to the system runs along the lines of:
My experience at the time left me quite depressed about the 'system'. However, what alternative is there as a safeguard against state sponsored repression?
I agree its not an ideal solution, but probably better than most of the alternatives. Fortunately I have got to nearly 60 and have not been called - yet.
My dread is to be put on dome dreary financial case that goes on for weeks.
I loved my Jury Service (c.18 months ago) - I leant more about phone-mast triangulation, burner-phones, how high a chap could jump out of a multi-story car park without serious injury (its higher than you think) and how to run a county-lines drug dealing network, than I'd ever have leant from the TV :D Most educational.
Sadly it got cancelled partway through as the forensic team had not checked to see if the defendants phone (the one that the whole case rested on) actually worked ... I rest my case milud :'( :'( :'(
Shame really as I was just getting into the swing of it.
Hey Ho :D
DEreck Underwood, iconic spin bowler
My jury service was a bit of a damp squib unfortunately. I spent 4 days sat in a room without getting a case, then got called in for jury selection on the Friday but wasn't chosen, then they told me to just go home and I was done. All I got out of it was a parking ticket!
DEreck Underwood, iconic spin bowler
"Deadly" Derek, another sporting hero of my yoof... I can remember commentators whenever the players came off due to a brief shower saying how the conditions would soon be ideal for Underwood - and how often he proved them right!
I was quite young when Underwood was playing for England.
His bowling action was confusing to a budding bowler.
Often faster than some "medium pacers".
As far as I can tell, he speared in flat quick deliveries aimed at the batsman's off stump.
Television wasn't good enough to detect subtleties of spin at the time.
I assume with his quicker pace he dealt in what we generally call "cutters".
What is beyond debate is his effective partnership with wicket keeper Alan Knott for Kent and England.
Perhaps it was Knott's agility that unlocked Underwood's faster deliveries.
A truly great bowler from my youth. Once saw him up close bowling in the nets at Lords. I was amazed how quickly he bowled - he would have qualified as a quick in my sort of cricket.
Paul Auster
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/may/01/paul-auster-dies-aged-77-death-american-author-new-york-trilogy (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/may/01/paul-auster-dies-aged-77-death-american-author-new-york-trilogy)
Duane Eddy (86). King of the "twangy" guitar instrumental in the late 50's/early 60's.
Hell no! :'(
An early Duane (and Jimmy). Flip side was "Soda Fountain Girl" which made an impression on my 8 year old self. RIP Mr. Twangy.
Bernard Hill
Theoden, Yosser, Captain of the Titanic
QuoteBernard Hill
Theoden, Yosser, Captain of the Titanic
So sad, one of the best! RIP.
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 May 2024, 05:14:42 PMBernard Hill
Theoden, Yosser, Captain of the Titanic
He was indeed a very good actor, a sad loss.
I always loved the scene when the Rihorrim come over the ridge at dawn to confront Sauron's horde attacking Minas Tiras. You go to a close up of Theoden who is probably thinking "well, there's quite a few of them".
"Spears shall be shaken and shields will be shattered!"
Always remember him for his brilliant portrait of Yosser in BFTBS.
Steve Albini. :(
QuoteSteve Albini. :(
Just saw that
https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/may/08/steve-albini-us-alt-rock-musician-and-producer-dies-aged-61 (https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/may/08/steve-albini-us-alt-rock-musician-and-producer-dies-aged-61)
Roger Corman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Corman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Corman)
Richard M Sherman - disney song writter.
Just seen on a Facebook page that Tony Anderson, owner and proprietor of Navwar, has sadly passed away. :-<
Paul
I was just looking at their website last night! Sad news indeed.
Sad news.
Rob Burrow - Rugby League star and an absolute legend.
R.I.P.
😔
Very sad - so young - and such a rapid decline in his health.
Too young and to such a dreadful disease :( .
Quote from: fred. on 02 June 2024, 06:18:51 PMVery sad - so young - and such a rapid decline in his health.
Yes indeed. Tragic. Doddie Weir the Scottish Rugby Union international also died from MND, as did my mother, who never played rugby but was also a star. MND is a bloody awful disease.
QuoteJust seen on a Facebook page that Tony Anderson, owner and proprietor of Navwar, has sadly passed away. :-<
Very sad news, must get another naval game in soon
Donald Sutherland: Dirty Dozen, The Eagle has Landed, Klute, Don't Look Now, Buffy the Vampire Slayer etc etc.
Good innings -88 but a sad loss.
QuoteDonald Sutherland: Dirty Dozen, The Eagle has Landed, Klute, Don't Look Now, Buffy the Vampire Slayer etc etc.
Good innings -88 but a sad loss.
Many, many, many roles over the years, from the '60's well into the 2000's.
But for me he'll always be Oddball.
Same here. :(
Don't hit me with those negative waves man
Damn. Another one we can't spare.
Very sad to see this but a good age and brilliant actor. Always wondered what the bods in Kellys Heroes did with their share of the gold.
It's rumoured that Kelly changed his name to Callahan and served as a detective in the SFPD for a long time 🙂
QuoteVery sad to see this but a good age and brilliant actor. Always wondered what the bods in Kellys Heroes did with their share of the gold.
They spent most of it on drink, drugs and dames ... and squandered the rest :)
... or possibly on fast cars, fast women and slow horses!
I'm just drinking some wine, eating some Cheese and taking some rays....
Kinky Friedman
https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jun/27/kinky-friedman-jewish-cowboy-dead (https://www.theguardian.com/music/article/2024/jun/27/kinky-friedman-jewish-cowboy-dead)
:'(
Shannen Doherty
Only 53! :o
Bob Newhart aged 93.
I loved his deadpan monologues.
And he was terrific in Catch 22 as the wonderfully named Major Major Major.
:(
A great shame. I remember him most for his role in an episode of NCIS where he played a former NCIS medical examiner, suffering from Alzheimer's.
Absolutely brilliant acting.
My Dad had a record of his monologues- loved the tobacco one above (Nutty Walt) and the Driving Instructor. Shame he's gone but 93 is a good innings.
Like Guy, the tobacco and driving instructor are just superb pieces of comedy. A great innings and what a legacy!
Ray Reardon, proud Welshman, ex-miner and six-time World Snooker Champion - nicknamed Dracula but an all-round nice guy. 91 - All in all a pretty good break...
The Green Biaze Vampire.
What a kegend
According to one Beeb announcer yesterday, he helped make snooker popular on the TV through his appearances on the programme 'Pot Luck' (Shome mishtake, shoorley) ;)
A sad loss and a great player.
I remember going to see him play at the local working mens club in the early 1970's - Pot Black was a very popular TV programme in NZ back then and they came here to play a series of games around the country.
Mind you there was only one TV channel back then anyway....in glorious black and white :)
John Mayall, aged 90. :(
QuoteMind you there was only one TV channel back then anyway....in glorious black and white :)
One of the classic snooker Colemanballs was Ted Lowe's line "and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green."
;) ;D
Quote from: Techno 3 on 24 July 2024, 08:44:39 AMJohn Mayall, aged 90. :(
And still playing 4 yrs ago
Martin Phillips - NZ Indie artist
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/founder-of-dunedin-band-the-chills-martin-phillipps-dies-unexpectedly/3BGAAJ7HCREULPLJO3MQOSJJBE/ (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/founder-of-dunedin-band-the-chills-martin-phillipps-dies-unexpectedly/3BGAAJ7HCREULPLJO3MQOSJJBE/)
Edna O'Brien, Irish author, although that doesn't really cover it!
Her books were banned and burned in her native Ireland at first. She broke the censorship barriers so successfully she was later awarded the highest Irish accolade for creative work of Saoi, alongside Heaney and Beckett.
Aged 93.
Not my type of fiction but still a sad loss
Sir Kenneth Grange, one of Britain's most influential designers, of such things as the Kenwood Chef food mixer, and the InterCity 125 train.
I had never seen Bob Newhart,
Watching posthumous posts, I see a very talented comic.
Imagine if Tony Hancock lived at 23 Railroad valley, East Virginia.
Alain Delon, 88, still the quintessential French movie star (especially since Gerard Depardieu fell off the wagon)
Quintessentially French, and yet I remember him best as Zorro.
(https://www.polka.paris/docs/Le_store/Tirages_/Vintage/IMG_8642.jpeg)
James Earl Jones!! :'(
QuoteJames Earl Jones!! :'(
(https://i.imgflip.com/3af6p7.jpg)
RIP
:(
As is often said here, many, many good innings. He and his magnificent voice will be missed.
David Knowles, Telegraph journo responsible for the 'Ukraine the latest' podcast. Used to listen to this guy every day, dropped dead at the weekend, 32.... :(
Quote from: Matt J on 10 September 2024, 02:41:13 PMDavid Knowles, Telegraph journo responsible for the 'Ukraine the latest' podcast. Used to listen to this guy every day, dropped dead at the weekend, 32.... :(
That is way too young!!
One a life well led, the other one cut off far too short :( .
Dame Maggie Smith, aged 89
:(
A brilliant actress and a sad loss :( .
DAMN!
:(
Kris Kristofferson
:(
I liked Kristofferson, for writing 'Me and Bobby McGee' if for nothing else, but actually for so much more.
Only Willie Nelson left from the Highwaymen now.
I always figured Willie Nelson and Keith Richard(s) ought to form a supergroup.
My aunt was an extra in the opening scene of Heaven's Gate.
Best thing in it.
Geoff Capes
https://www.facebook.com/share/apFUTJf27JDjir3q/
Quote from: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 October 2024, 08:08:54 PMGeoff Capes
https://www.facebook.com/share/apFUTJf27JDjir3q/
He was not that old either.
Ron Ely
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ron-ely-death-tarzan-star-with-tragic-family-history-dies-at-86/ar-AA1sNQ6i?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=2f372e64a573478d8e5d67206fd665ec&ei=36 (https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ron-ely-death-tarzan-star-with-tragic-family-history-dies-at-86/ar-AA1sNQ6i?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=2f372e64a573478d8e5d67206fd665ec&ei=36)
Sad news on both fronts :( . Geoff Capes I remember mainly from the Superstars (?) tv show and Ron Ely was our Tarzan when growing up, despite seeing Johnny Weismuller now and then.
Teri Garr
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/29/2280794/-Teri-Garr-1944-2024?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/29/2280794/-Teri-Garr-1944-2024?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)
proper obituary for Teri Garr
Teri Garr https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/29/2280794/-Teri-Garr-1944-2024?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web (http://Teri Garr https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/29/2280794/-Teri-Garr-1944-2024?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web)
Quincy Jones, an absolute legend, aged 91 :( .
Tony Todd
https://deadline.com/2024/11/tony-todd-dead-candyman-1236171521/ (https://deadline.com/2024/11/tony-todd-dead-candyman-1236171521/)
always thought he was brilliant
Olivia Hussey
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001377/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Johnny Walker
Jimmy Carter.
:(
There are few times when it seems everyone can agree about the essential decency of a human being. Jimmy Carter's passing appears to be one of those times. RIP.