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Started by Orcs, 25 February 2014, 08:04:26 AM

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Orcs

I have brought this as a new thread rather than divert the Mongol report.


I have a large 1939 Polish Army, and while I accept that 1939 Poles are a gap in the WW2 range I am not sure that they are a good commercial prospect.  Pithead produce all the vehicles and en extensive range of figures for them.  There is also a good basic range made by Bend Sinister. 

To do the range properly you will have to produce a large number of packs, particuarly as people will want the 10th Brigade which also fought in France. However as they have German style helmets it means producing another complete set of masters - effectively two figure ranges for one army.  I appreciate heads can just be changed by this is still another set of masters to be moulded.

I fully agree with Leon about the different sculptors. Magister seem to have used different sculptors for the same ranges. I have an Imperial roman army and some of the magister ones are head and shoulders  taller than other MM ones in the same army.

A better prospect is either filling in the ranges of starting on something that is wanted but not easilly avaliable.

Biblical stuff is popular only made by MM so I think would be a good option

Gaps in the ranges might work but would be more difficult for a kickstarter, but less of a risk, I think the obvious gaps are :-

Opponents for Mongols. Apart from my lead pile the lack of opponents also contributred to my not pledging
Mamlukes - This adds to Crusades and as mongol enemies
Picts
Extend medieval range to cover the Crusades more extensively
Italian Wars
The French Foreign Legion, desperately need some artillery, Mounted and Mule train
Korea
1950s' Africa
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FierceKitty

25 February 2014, 08:27:04 AM #1 Last Edit: 25 February 2014, 08:33:57 AM by FierceKitty
One man's obvious is unfortunately another's who'd want it? I speak from bitter experience. :(
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Orcs

Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 February 2014, 08:27:04 AM
One man's obvious is unfortunately another's who'd want it? I speak fro bitter experience. :(

Totally agree FK.  I was just browsing the ranges to see where there were gaps,  Not necessarilly ones I would want fill.

I would also like Burmese as opponents to my Indians, but one manufacturer already makes them and I cannot see them being a huge seller, so I did not add them
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FierceKitty

I've done Burmese recently; they're rather fun, though so far the Chinese and the Indians have both thumped them. I'll see if I can post pictures this weekend.
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Orcs

Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 February 2014, 08:35:06 AM
I've done Burmese recently; they're rather fun, though so far the Chinese and the Indians have both thumped them. I'll see if I can post pictures this weekend.

That would be good, may well make me add to my lead pile.  What rules did you use for them
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Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Orcs

The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

FierceKitty

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 25 February 2014, 08:41:34 AM
That would be good, may well make me add to my lead pile.  What rules did you use for them

Ten More Sons.
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Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 25 February 2014, 07:40:45 PM
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In fact any gardening equipment in 10mm would be a welcome addition
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Zippee

I'd be happy with a French howitzer for 1809  :(

You'd think that as they were called centurions at the time, that would help to ensure they get sculpted soon  :-\

Otherwise my suggestion for Not KS stuff would be suitable armies for By Fire & Sword - it's a niche, it's "happening", it's limited and yet expandable. . .

Steve J

QuoteI have a large 1939 Polish Army, and while I accept that 1939 Poles are a gap in the WW2 range I am not sure that they are a good commercial prospect.  Pithead produce all the vehicles and en extensive range of figures for them.  There is also a good basic range made by Bend Sinister. 

The Bend Sinister ones are 12mm and personally the Pithead figures just don't do it for me. Their vehicles are pretty good from what I've seen though. On a commercial note, Pendraken produce ranges that are equally covered by Magister Militum et al, so I don't see this as an issue. I do think their limited appeal, as mentioned previoulsy, could be an issue.

QuoteTo do the range properly you will have to produce a large number of packs, particuarly as people will want the 10th Brigade which also fought in France. However as they have German style helmets it means producing another complete set of masters - effectively two figure ranges for one army.  I appreciate heads can just be changed by this is still another set of masters to be moulded.

I believe the units that fought in France used French or British uniforms, but stand to be corrected on this (If time permits I will double check my Polish books). I think the 10th Brigade is a must due to it being one of the most famous Polish units in the short campaign.

Hertsblue

We still need late twentieth century infantry for the superb armour that's appearing at the moment. Yes, you can possibly go with some existing figures from WW2 and Vietnam, but but there are still an awful lot missing.
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