What's crazy, impractical and bigger than a Maus...

[fsn]

The Black Prince!

Oh yes! YES! YESSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS!

May I have a Black Prince please Leon? 

[Fenton]

Oh yes! YES! YESSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS!

May I have a Black Prince please Leon? 

Oh god here we go again

[Leon]

[Wulf]

Oh god here we go again

There's 2 of us now...

[Ithoriel]

Oh yes! YES! YESSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS!

May I have a Black Prince please Leon? 

Wot? Not an A39 Tortoise?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise_heavy_assault_tank

[Wulf]

The Tortoise was fairly impractical, just a bunker buster for bunkers that never appeared. The Black Prince was actually a fairly sensible, if unimaginative, idea.

[fsn]

I think if I wanted a Black Prince, I'd probably just marry a Comet turret with a Churchill hull. I know the Black Prince was wider than a Churchill, but probably not noticeable in 10mm, and they never got to production, so who's to say the turret wouldn't have looked very Comet-y?

I'm sure Leon would oblige, if only fpr the peace.

[Ithoriel]

The Tortoise was fairly impractica

This is a thread primarily about the "Ratte" - impractical would seem to be appropriate

[Hertsblue]

Special "Ratte" rules

A "Ratte" counts all terrain except roads as impassable terrain. Any road used by a "Ratte" counts as a ploughed field for subsequent movement.

The 240mm guns of the "Ratte" have a minimum range of (diagonal distance across the playing surface + 10cms).

At the start of every player turn roll 1D6 for each "Ratte"

On a roll of 1 to 5 the ludicrous weight of the Ratte puts such strain on the engines that the "Ratte" is immobilised for the rest of the game

On a roll of 6+ the strain on the engines and transmission causes problems similar to those encountered by early Panthers but with much more catastrophic effects due to the vastly increased amounts of fuel and ammunition on board. The engines catch fire and the"Ratte" explodes. Remove the "Ratte" model and replace it with a similar sized crater model which counts as impassable terrain to all troop types.

Modifiiers - an immobilised "Ratte" adds 5 to the die roll.

How does that sound Phil??

You've forgotten:

On a roll of 3+ the Ratte strands itself on the nearest hillock and remains seesawing gently until the end of the game.

On reaching the nearest major river the Ratte halts - regardless of whether or not there are bridges available.

[Steeleye]

I seem to remember that the front track guards on a Black Prince slope down as well so a Comet turret on a Churchill chassis wouldn't really look right even in 10mm.

If there's going to be a '1946' range we'll want Mk I Cents and Churchill Kangaroos too...basically an APC with six inches of frontal armour!

[Ithoriel]

You've forgotten:

On a roll of 3+ the Ratte strands itself on the nearest hillock and remains seesawing gently until the end of the game.

On reaching the nearest major river the Ratte halts - regardless of whether or not there are bridges available.

Not .... forgotten ... exactly.

At the start of it's first turn it is either immobilised or explodes. At the start of it's second turn, assuming it hasn't already exploded, it rolls 1D6 adds 5 to the total and explodes on a total of 6 or more.

Additional movement restrictions seemed ... a little harsh

[Matt J]

Oh come on, you all want one really!

you can always try knocking it out with the 14" rail gun

[Ithoriel]

Perhaps it could be fielded as off-table Naval Artillery in BKC?

Which, to be fair, is what we've counted the Karl Gerat Morser model I have on the one occasion it was used in our games.

[Dave]

Hi All
The mystery poster is back - leons right hand man.  Its my weird project based around having a 1946 style german infantry - done about 20 years ago, two kind designer(s) who have done walkers based on ww2 tanks.  So I'll be doing it will be through out next year a black prince, tortiose and the US super heavy tank.  The British infantry will be 1950's style to fit with my other pet project a 1950's British army.

Dave

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Get in here before FSN...
Korea here we come!