Rules for Mongols ?

[Albie Bach]

I've just read the first of a series of articles in the latest Miniature Wargames magazine about the Mongol conquests and was wondering what rulebooks do you think would be good for the new Mongol range?
I've had a look through various topics about the Mongols and can't find anything about it.

Cheers, Colin

[sunjester]

I haven't played them, but I have heard good things about Ironbow from the Perfect Captain. They are designed for the Crusades but cover Mamluks and Mongols.

http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/ironbow.html

[Steve J]

Warmaster Ancients covers the Mongol period, as does Hail Caesar IIRC.

[Steve J]

Just thought of Fields of Glory which may cover said period.

[Albie Bach]

Warmaster Ancients covers the Mongol period, as does Hail Caesar IIRC.

Thanks, Steve
Warmaster Ancients rather than Warmaster Medieval you think? Are they in the Warmaster Ancient Army book do you know?

[get2grips]

Hi Albie,

They are in the Warmaster Medieval book.

If you ever need to chase a WM army list, check here

http://www.ricks-warmaster.com/ricks_lists.htm

[Shedman]

The problem with Mongol warfare is that it quite fluid and requires space

In Field of Glory the Mongols require a 6x4 table to be any good, smaller tables ie 5x3 in some competitions, don't leave any room for flank attacks or running away

I won a FOG  V1 Competition using a Mongol Conquest army. My opponents were Jin, Republican Roman, Indian & Catalan Company

In each game it was a case of exploiting the rules to get the enemy to chase me in all directions and then picking off isolated units

FOG V2 is a bit different as it no longer requires units to chase after Light troops - I maybe wrong as I gave up on FOG and haven't played it

I've used Huns with Warmaster which allows cavalry to zoom around the table - no doubt Hello Caesar works in a similar fashion

As I intend to do pre-conquest Mongols ie Mongol against Mongol, I am tempted by Warmaster, HC or Battles For Empire or a combination of all 3

[get2grips]

The problem with Mongol warfare is that it quite fluid and requires space

I've used Huns with Warmaster which allows cavalry to zoom around the table - no doubt Hello Caesar works in a similar fashion

Agree completely.  Can't comment on other rules but WM (on a BIG table 6'x4' at least) allows battle changing manoeuvre.

[Fenton]

Basic Impetus has a nice Mongol Army in it

[Steve J]

Warmaster Medieval is just an army list book with some extra rules for the period, so you need the Warmaster Ancients rulebook as well to play the game. However you certainly get a lot in each book, especially stuff for campaigns, seiges etc, the former which you really want for the rampaging Mongol hordes I would have thought. He this helps?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

I was going to use Hail Cheesy, as the army list limits mongol light horse to small units.
Planning on Mongol vs mongol to start with.

[Albie Bach]

Warmaster Medieval is just an army list book with some extra rules for the period, so you need the Warmaster Ancients rulebook as well to play the game.

Ah right, thanks. I didn't know that.  

The problem with Mongol warfare is that it quite fluid and requires space

Yes, the article says its important to get these things right to represent a Mongol force properly.  

[FierceKitty]

The new figures look super, but I have to say I have always found light-cavalry specialist armies rather dull to use on the table. Effective, if the table's big enough, but dull. I've done Parthians, Scythians, Magyars, Palmyrenes, Huns, Mongols, Sioux, and Hsiung-Nu in my time, so I have honestly tried.

[TinyTerrain]

Hi,

I am currently writing "The Crescent and The Cross",  my 10mm rules for the Crusades. However they could easily be used for Mongol shananigans  just by adding some troops stats and army rules. The core rules will be available early next year all being well.

Cheers

Craig
Tiny Terrain Models

[Albie Bach]

Thank you for all the info and the links. The summary list is:

Warmaster Ancients
Hail Caesar
Fields of Glory
Battles For Empire
Basic Impetus
Perfect Captain - IronBow
and Craig's "The Cresent and The Cross" rules he is working on.

I'll have a look at any I can get hold of and take it from there.
It's a great looking range and not something I had considered until I saw the new masters and interest on this forum.