Irish Men and Women, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575

Started by Druzhina, 23 September 2013, 10:00:39 AM

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clibinarium

Nice find. I've seen this illustration before, but the Women are usually cropped out. Is there any indication of their social status? They appear more affluent than the men, but these illustrations usually pair up the classes.

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looks like the swordsman is an escort/bodyguard to the noble women moving the rifraf out of the way. No shoes on the gents.
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24 September 2013, 12:09:58 PM #4 Last Edit: 24 September 2013, 12:15:36 PM by Druzhina
Quote from: clibinarium on 23 September 2013, 01:30:10 PM
Nice find. I've seen this illustration before, but the Women are usually cropped out. Is there any indication of their social status? They appear more affluent than the men, but these illustrations usually pair up the classes.

I don't have any info on this, there may be something for those that read Dutch.
D'Heere was in England for a while but probably not Ireland. He may have seen some of these costumes in England. I have found one of the same figures plus others in his costume book:
Irish as they stand accoutred being at the service of the late King Henry, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575
Irishman and Irishwoman, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575
Irish Woman and Girl, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575

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Irish as they stand accoutred being at the service of the late King Henry, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575
Irishman and Irishwoman, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575
Irish Woman and Girl, by Lucas d'Heere, about 1575

As this has costumes from ancient times until his, he can't be a primary source for all of them and I recognise some of his turks are based on other sources.
But, he is used as the source for many Osprey and other modern paintings.

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Definitely say the lady folk of Ireland were keener followers of fashion than the men, and maybe because they controlled the purse strings and were not out on the estates or fighting they made an effort too?
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Druzhina

Quote from: mad lemmey on 24 September 2013, 01:42:55 PM
Definitely say the lady folk of Ireland were keener followers of fashion than the men, and maybe because they controlled the purse strings and were not out on the estates or fighting they made an effort too?

Matt of Munslow's suggestion fits. The women may be Irish or Anglo-Irish of the Pale while the men are wild Irish.

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