Modelling Workshop

Started by Phobos, 08 January 2013, 06:16:19 PM

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mollinary

Hi Phobos,

Some lovely work there!  :D  Just one question regarding the Etrusco-Corinthian helmets on the Roman Triarii and the Scythian nobleman.  They are beautifully modelled, but are you sure the proportions and angle are right?  They look rather as if a true Corinthian helmet was being worn balanced on the top of the head, and at that angle I am not sure it would be possible for it to stay in position even at rest, let alone during violent action!  :-\. I had thought (I admit, on the basis of not a lot of evidence) that this type of helmet was a rather stylised version of this design, and was not as tall as a real one pushed back would be, and was not so sharply angled to the rear - does anyone else have views? I think the closest I have to an image on which I am basing this is the triarius on p110 of John Warry's Warfare in the Classical World, which I have seen widely reproduced elsewhere. He also has a great chart on p109 showing the development of Samnite, Roman and Etruscan helmets which includes this type as no 7.  The key point is that the rear of the helmet is nowhere near as heavily angled as the front. This beautiful book is over thirty years old now, so I have no idea if more recent research has overtaken this. Does anyone have any ideas/views?

Mollinary
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Phobos

Good question Mollinary. In fact, originally the helmet of the triarii was smaller in the back, but when I insert the feathers, it deformed a bit backwards. As you said, at least etrusco corinthan and apulio corinthian were stylised versions, I have this in my mind.

The sctyhian one was the first helmet made of this kind by me, so it´s full of flaws, really. I promise to do it better soon ;)

Annatar

good job  :-bd

war elephant is fantastic !
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seano1815

 :-bd Great job on all the figures Phobos, love the elephant, its an art, a skill i wish i could do. maybe one day i'll put the painting catapult down and pick up the sculpting trowel.
have a great week
Sean

nikharwood

Excellent - especially that pachyderm  8)

Phobos

Wow, thanks to everybody!

In fact, Pachyderm as term is obsolete (just readed it now) but thanks anyway Nik :D

Techno

Quick question P.

You're obviously using 'green stuff'.....But on certain parts are you mixing that with another putty ?
Or are the lighter 'greens parts' plain Milliput ?
Cheers - Phil.

nikharwood

Quote from: Phobos on 11 April 2013, 11:53:23 PM
In fact, Pachyderm as term is obsolete (just readed it now) but thanks anyway Nik :D

Don't you go believing that Wikipedia...it's still in the OED so I'm going to keep using it as it's such a coolio word  ;) :D

Phobos

Quote from: Techno on 12 April 2013, 08:00:42 AM
Quick question P.

You're obviously using 'green stuff'.....But on certain parts are you mixing that with another putty ?
Or are the lighter 'greens parts' plain Milliput ?
Cheers - Phil.

Yep, GS + White milliput, for general shapes ;)

Quote from: nikharwood on 12 April 2013, 08:20:59 AM
Don't you go believing that Wikipedia...it's still in the OED so I'm going to keep using it as it's such a coolio word  ;) :D

Haha, not in wikipedia (in fact, I use it near nothing), but yep, a nice word.

Phobos

Well, something new now. A commission trophy for a Blood Bowl tournament. Not 100% finished, it needs something on the cup, advices welcome.




Also, Im working in three different ancient spanish warlords (Iberian, Celtiberian and Lusotannan) with their standard bearers and musicians and some macedonian phalangetai, pics soon.

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O Dinas Powys

A ball; an armoured, clenched fist; a fist holding a ball; or goal-posts?
(I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;)  )

Phobos

Flames with ball or fist with a ball... look nice... Thanks chaps!

nikharwood

Totty?

I'll get my coat...

Phobos

Not enough space for totty :D