Which rules are suggested for ECW?

[Chrissy]

Hi All,

Was wondering what the current preference is for a rule set for ECW? 

Also the basing sizes and numbers of figures per base for 10mm for the rule sets? 

Any help much appreciated.

[FierceKitty]

I'm still using DBR, with numerous improvements.

[Chrissy]

Thanks FierceKitty.  I used to play DBR so not a problem there.  My problem was a quick Google seemed to throw up Warhammer (1644) rules and Pike & Shot as the main contenders, neither of which I am familiar with.

Any suggestion of base sizes to use would also be a great help.  If I remember correctly the suggested increase in figures compared to 25/28mm figures was x 4 for 15mm and x 8 for 6mm figures, is there a rule of thumb for 10mm?

Again any help much appreciated. 

[petercooman]

I think there is also a ruleset from polemos that covers that period. Don't know about it's playability though...

[Fenton]

You try Basic Baroque from the Impetus stable or Forlorn Hope...I did have WECW and 1644 and there both bloody awful..I think someones done an ECW conversion of Maurice as well

[FierceKitty]

I use DBR frontages, but I've made them a bit less deep for foot, otherwise a pike block looks ridiculous. It creates a minor difference in the amount of overlap a flank attack on a column can cause (a recoiling pike block taken in flank looses three elements, not two), but I can live with that.

[Steve J]

There are some WMA variants on the following site which might be of use:

http://www.ricks-warmaster.com/ricks_updates-variants.htm

Some people have also used the new Maurice rules for ECW.

[Nosher]

Yup, currently using Maurice for ECW or Field of Glory Renaissance. Maurice base sizes dont matter as long as both armies use the same sizes and FOG is generally speaking foot on 40x20 and cavalry on 40x30.

[mollinary]

There are quite a few out there, but I am still looking for the perfect set.  Of the older sets around Forlorn Hope is pretty good, and has its own Yahoo group.  So do the Polemos stable of rules, and the system was originally designed for ECW and so models it particularly well. There is a second edition of the rules which ironed out a number of the original teething troubles.  Volley and Bayonet looks as if it should be easily adaptable, and I know some have tried it, but I have never succeeded.  Maurice looks fun, and reading it should need very little in the way of modification. The way it allows certain characteristics to be included in armies means that it is a great toolbox for modifying to other periods.  My favourite set of rules at present belong to the Command and Colors stable by Richard Borg.  Again, he does not do this period per se, but both his Ancient and Napoleonic rules offer ideas that are applicable.  Overall, Chrissy, it depends on whether you want it already completed,  or are willing to "tinker" a bit!    Lots of options.

Mollinary

[Jim Ando]

Hi

Our group use regiment of Foote by Peter pig.

A great set of rules for 15mm but you can play 10mm with no problems.

We use 25x25mm bases for foot and horse with

6 musketeers, 9 pikemen and 3 cavalry per base.

Units can be from 2 to 7 bases large.

Jim

[Fenton]

Not sure if this blog belongs to somebody on this site ..and although its 6mm its look fantastic and uses C&C for ECW, and shows what great stuff can be done in smaller scales

http://ecw6.blogspot.co.uk/

[mollinary]

Don't think Lee is on this forum, Fenton, but agree with your comments!

Mollinary

[nikharwood]

ECWarmaster & RenaissanceMaster for me 

Tempted to look at Pike & Shotte at some point as well.

[Luddite]

Yup, currently using Maurice for ECW or Field of Glory Renaissance.

Both excellent choices.



Warhammer Ancients sucks.  Warhammer ECW sucks hard.  Twice.  Best avoided.

DBR also doesn't work that well which is a shame.

[Genom]

My only foray into ECW was using the Basic Baroque Sampler for Impetus. I played it at the club with a load of people who know better than me, but everyone was agreed that it had a nice feel to it even though it needs a bit of tweaking around the edges.