Clutter

[Hertsblue]

Did someone use the word "standard" in a wargaming context? There's no such thing! We all march to our own drum. I would love casualty markers on my tables, but I know darn well they will never happen - simply because I'd far rather paint up fighting troops than mess around with peripherals.

Besides, I've always felt that there's something a little macabre about dead and wounded on a games table.

[mollinary]

So HB, I respect your view regarding casualties, but what of other ways of representing the decline in unit effectiveness that the markers represent?   A figure running away, no hat, no weapon, for example? 

Mollinary     

[Paint it Pink]

I have no problem with using nice models for markers, but it take time to do this and I never seem to have enough time to just get the basics done, let alone the nice extras.

[Albie Bach]

There are laser marked MDF tokens available (including causalty counters) for those who don't want to use dice/counters/winegums.
Generic, easy to store, relatively unobtrusive and inexpensive.
For general use I'm happy with dice and counters and don't consider them clutter.
Cheers, Colin

[FierceKitty]

Sprinkle red powder paint in the wake of a fleeing unit to show shed blood?

[sebigboss79]

Depends and I can understand there is considerable argument.

First of all we have different ideas what clutter is. But I think it is quite up to the gaming parties what is acceptable under which circumstances.

Sometimes I have little issue with opponents mug of coffe being on the table. Simply because the other tables are occupied and it does not really hinder at that point.

Dice is another issue. Rolled dice should be removed asap, they are just in the way for the next roll, movement etc. As in casualty markers take a look at minibits dice frames. My 10mm armies will all hold dice  frames and coloured dice as to mark current unit strength. Problem solved.

For other items (bag of crisps, sandwich etc) there is a chair, table reserved next to the gaming table. Such stuff is simply unacceptable on the board. Rulebook belongs offboard as rules should be memorised and if need be the rulebok can be quickly accessed anyways.

So much for my oppinion on this

[Orcs]

What about 'work desks' ?....Let alone gaming tables !

Dont worry Techno - " A clear desk is the sign of a sick mind!"

[Hertsblue]

Dont worry Techno - " A clear desk is the sign of a sick mind!"

Yeah, nothing inspired ever came out of a tidy mind. 

[Techno]

 
But I've ended up being SUCH a hypocrite.....In articles I've written in the dim and distant past, I always stressed that you need to keep your desk tidy.
Unless your me, of course.
Cheers - Phil.

[OldenBUA]

"Ordnung braucht nur der Dumme, das Genie beherrscht das Chaos." - Albert Einstein

[FierceKitty]

Eine Tasse Kaffee, bitte.
  - Freud (attributed)

[Albie Bach]

Eine Tasse Kaffee, bitte.
  - Freud (attributed)

As long as you don't put it on the gaming table. 
Colin

[sebigboss79]

Ein deutscher Gruß? Hier im Forum? 

German Greetings from Edinburgh 

[Rob]

ein großes Bier bitte

[Techno]

I think I understood that one !
Cheers - Phil.