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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: 17-21l on 10 May 2010, 02:59:08 PM
Mate!!! youve got to love FierceKitty- bless! Maybe he could suggest a few things that would 'sell' and get peoples imaginations going.
Please dont diss my requests for boring old Napoleonics - have you seen other ranges out there!? it is a tundra.

I am not into SCW WW1 WW2 but come off it man you can't moan about the amount of releases- I only wish I did do WW2 - I would be happy happy days ( although those chaps are spoilt for choice in this period- lucky B#####s)

Naaaaa keep it up and ignore the negatives - your bag baby (meeow)  :P ;D :D :) ;)

What's come over you? Has your request for Undead Space Vikings in Drag been turned down again?  :-*
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17-21l

Ha ha - no that would be far to 'out' for me - im just boring old historical  :-*
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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: 17-21l on 11 May 2010, 12:56:01 PM
Ha ha - no that would be far to 'out' for me - im just boring old historical  :-*

I feel your pain. Right now I'm reading some stuffy book on the eighteenth century Jäger und Schützen der Preußischen Armee. And this morning the mailman brought these corny Russian and Japanese warships of the 1905 war, it's insane, why do I bother? I know I'm hurting myself because there is so much more out there man, so much more.  :o
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17-21l

Stick to it pal- get some ACW in as well - hey we are the boring guys keeping the boat afloat as we buy the normal stuff - all this 'Great Pomegranate wars of outer florisian empires 1453 - 839 - with space turtles against giant hairy testicals' - its all b#ll#cks (litteraly)

Companies need boring swine like my good self- and it makes me feel proud and wanted :D :D :-X
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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: 17-21l on 11 May 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Stick to it pal- get some ACW in as well - hey we are the boring guys keeping the boat afloat as we buy the normal stuff - all this 'Great Pomegranate wars of outer florisian empires 1453 - 839 - with space turtles against giant hairy testicals' - its all b#ll#cks (litteraly)

Companies need boring swine like my good self- and it makes me feel proud and wanted :D :D :-X

Hear hear, we're old and stuffy and educated, probably hard-working and smelly as well, and we'll certainly soon be dead. We should take up a hobby or sumtin.

Oh wait..  ::)
Sadly no longer with us - RIP (1958-2013)

"No, I do not have Orcs, Riders of Rohan, Dark Elves, Skaven, Kroot Mercenaries Battle Tech, HeroClix, Gangs of Mega-City One or many-horned f****** genetic-mechanoid arse-faced pigmen from the Purple Pustule of Tharg T bloody M." (Harry Pearson, Achtung Schweinehund!)

Steve J

I game periods I have a genuine interest in; namely WWII and the Cold War at present. In the future I would like to return to ECW but only when I find the time and inclination.

I would like to game other periods in the future but, to be honest, I think I would tire of them fairly quickly. Why? I think I would get bored of, to my mind, the fairly rigid way that battles were fought in say the middle ages or the 18th century. A good friend of mine many years ago made the very valid point (to my mind) that it is nigh on impossible to game in say an 18thC frame of mind and not add in 20thC tactics and mindsets. I hope this is clear.

Aart Brouwer

Quote from: Steve J on 11 May 2010, 06:47:45 PM
I game periods I have a genuine interest in; namely WWII and the Cold War at present. In the future I would like to return to ECW but only when I find the time and inclination.

I would like to game other periods in the future but, to be honest, I think I would tire of them fairly quickly. Why? I think I would get bored of, to my mind, the fairly rigid way that battles were fought in say the middle ages or the 18th century. A good friend of mine many years ago made the very valid point (to my mind) that it is nigh on impossible to game in say an 18thC frame of mind and not add in 20thC tactics and mindsets. I hope this is clear.

What you say is quite profound, and probably erroneous (Conrad).

After all, what's the difference? We can't very well game with the mindset of a 1941 Ukarainian conscript or an ex-Pionier East German tank commander either. Yet that is what you try to do when you concentrate on your favourite game periods, WWII and the Cold War. Sure, there are degrees of remoteness here, but if you have ever been to the former Soviet Union you will know that even the relatively recent Cold War mindset can be quite remote.

Cheers,
Aart
Sadly no longer with us - RIP (1958-2013)

"No, I do not have Orcs, Riders of Rohan, Dark Elves, Skaven, Kroot Mercenaries Battle Tech, HeroClix, Gangs of Mega-City One or many-horned f****** genetic-mechanoid arse-faced pigmen from the Purple Pustule of Tharg T bloody M." (Harry Pearson, Achtung Schweinehund!)

17-21l

Cor Blimey Art - you just eaten some kind of dictionary dood? - bit deep man, Whats your thought on animosities during the Danish invasions of the British Isles??? :D ;)
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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: 17-21l on 11 May 2010, 08:39:54 PM
Cor Blimey Art - you just eaten some kind of dictionary dood? - bit deep man, Whats your thought on animosities during the Danish invasions of the British Isles??? :D ;)

That's funny, I thought the other guy was being a tad too dictionariabilical. Invasion of the British what, you say?  :-[
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17-21l

Dicttio ?? Dittty dick  ? Oh its easy for you to say!! You know the invasion :-X
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The_Shootist

The 37mm is a great addition to the French WW2 Infantry as well as ww1 especially in the French Infantry support Companies, in lieu of the 25mm.

nikharwood

Quotenigh on impossible to game in say an 18thC frame of mind and not add in 20thC tactics and mindsets

I think Steve's point is an interesting & valid one: we necessarily approach our gaming with our own history: we are products of the 20th & 21st centuries and will approach history with that mindset. We will bring that thinking to an historical situation & apply it as a 'filter' onto what we interpret as being legitimately 'correct' to do tactically from a games perspective, not apply what we *know* from our research what contemporary doctrine would have suggested.

Hmm - interesting...this one bears further thought & scrutiny methinks  8)


Steve J

Eloquently put Nik.

FierceKitty

16 May 2010, 11:53:37 AM #43 Last Edit: 16 May 2010, 11:56:39 AM by FierceKitty
I enjoy opponents who can't think outside the box. The one 1943 game I have ever enjoyed was against someone who KNEW that cavalry were an archaic relic of the past which his tanks could ignore. After a Cossack charge in the rear had left him without infantry support, he went a bit green in the face....
  But the suggestion that 18th century or other era's tactics are formulaic and repetetive really prompts the advice that you read a few more books with hard covers, preferably written by contemporaries who had seen Frederick or Saxe or Wolfe or Hadik in action, or by modern writers like Dufy. And less Don Featherstone too, perhaps. Formulaic fighting doesn't quite explain how someone could win a battle again five-to-one odds, does it?
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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: FierceKitty on 16 May 2010, 11:53:37 AM
I enjoy opponents who can't think outside the box.

I enjoy opponents who know every rule in the book as well as lots of details about the historic period we play, so they can teach me a thing or two about both. But most of all I enjoy a good time with friends.

The outcome of most sitreps is that we can't really gauge the mindset of those who were involved in an historic scenario. Or the outcomes of the moral dicisions they would have had to take. To name but one example: would a particular 1980 Soviet commander have sacrificed a certain unit in the interest of the Motherland? Nobody can tell. Nobody can recreate the reality of battle on a table. It's a game, remember.

Cheers,
Aart
Sadly no longer with us - RIP (1958-2013)

"No, I do not have Orcs, Riders of Rohan, Dark Elves, Skaven, Kroot Mercenaries Battle Tech, HeroClix, Gangs of Mega-City One or many-horned f****** genetic-mechanoid arse-faced pigmen from the Purple Pustule of Tharg T bloody M." (Harry Pearson, Achtung Schweinehund!)