Flames of War

[Fenton]

 I noticed that Battlefront have announced that ony BF miniatures will be allowed to be used in offical FOW tournaments from now on

[GordonY]

Games Workshoppy that, must be worried about the Plastic Soldier Company's new output.

[Hertsblue]

That certainly is BF, if you see what I mean. 

And Westwind's "Forged in Battle" range, Gordon. They're really nice - and cheaper! 

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Piggy stuff and the Old Glory ones work as well. How they going to enforce it being at the wrong end of the world ?

IanS

[Fenton]

How they going to enforce it being at the wrong end of the world ?

IanS

Probably like this

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=88

I am sure these people in the diferent countries organise the events

[Aart Brouwer]

I noticed that Battlefront have announced that ony BF miniatures will be allowed to be used in offical FOW tournaments from now on

Good for them. Losers of the world, unite. 

Cheers,
Aart

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

As a major Flames Competition organiser, I can say it's a pain! It's casuing severe ructions! People are even pulling out!
Especially as they have decided to drop all their events within a week of the three biggest Flames events in the country, but since they've cocked this up, we'll be enjoying full comps. 

[Leon]

This doesn't come as much of a surprise unfortunately, this was the only direction left for their business model to maintain sales.  The way the BF prices have increased over the past few years, and with more people switching to cheaper alternatives, this was the only option for them now. 

The interesting thing now will be seeing whether they've got enough loyalty in the customer base for this to keep the pennies coming in?  If there's a strong negative reaction to this, then a price increase will be in the very near future as well.

I can understand someone following certain aspects of the GW model, but what I don't get is why they then continue to make the same mistakes as GW.  You can't tell your customers what to do, or force them into a corner, it doesn't work that way.  GW get away with it a lot more as they're dealing with a younger market who probably aren't as financially aware.

We'd never dream of telling people they couldn't use our stuff with Minifigs, Pithead, WGS, etc. etc. 'cos that's just not the way to do it.  All you can do as a company, is produce good quality, comprehensive ranges, link them up to a good ruleset as a sales engine and back it up with solid marketing and customer service.

But then GW & BF both turnover millions each year, and we don't... 

[Nosher]

People in certain circles pay very large lumps of money to get told 'what to do' but it usually involves a bit of strumpet dressed in leather, chains and high heels carrying a whip

[Malbork]

I see that it basically says on their website that you can't play their game using other people's figs, but what about using their toys to play other peole's games

I've just ordered some scenic items which I'm too lazy (and cack-handed) to produce myself for use with both Piggy's PBI and BKC which I'm just starting out with.  Shoud l I let them know that or will the scenery automatically self-destruct when it registers that my troops are "wrongly" based?

[OldenBUA]

People in certain circles pay very large lumps of money to get told 'what to do' but it usually involves a bit of strumpet dressed in leather, chains and high heels carrying a whip

So, you are suggesting a career move for poor Leon? 

[Leon]

People in certain circles pay very large lumps of money to get told 'what to do' but it usually involves a bit of strumpet dressed in leather, chains and high heels carrying a whip

So, you are suggesting a career move for poor Leon? 

Sounds like a promotion to me... 

[ronan]

Sounds like a promotion to me... 

This time I DON'T want pics ! 

[Nosher]

I sold the rights to 'those' pics of Leon to Readers Wives

[Maenoferren]

Strangely enough though I once saw Pendraken hill dwarves at a GW games day....
can honestly say i have never been as bored in my life...not like a proper wargames convention at all 
Anyway back to the point... peopel will spend their pennies where they want and the can still play games with watever they want... if the BF lot wont let them into a tournament then people could always organise their own.
I am basically going to sell of my Flames of war stuff, it did begin to get too pricey... moving all and everything to 10mm now...if i had kept on going with it then, providing other manufacturers figures fitted in and were good quality/ cheaper then I know where I would be going.
oh no.... I used My BF figures to play Savage worlds wierd wars... shouldn't I have???