Some Questions about pendraken and 10mm in General

Started by KOVAV, 28 September 2011, 06:41:01 PM

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FierceKitty

Quote from: fred12df on 30 September 2011, 08:54:05 PM
I find that painting 1 or 2 units at a time works best, as a balance between production line speed and getting bored doing the same thing again and again. A unit for me is typical 30 infantry or 9-12 cavalry.

I would recommend hobby paints to start with, they have better coverage than craft paints. Vallejo are nice paints, GW are OK but expensive. Generally GW is readily available, and Vallejo needs mail ordeing.
I agree. Paint a few units at a time; it's good for your morale to see a few completed regiments while progressing with the next batch. But I always keep a lot of horses available, since there's often some left-over pigment which can be turned into a brown and sloshed onto the gee-gees. Saves time and avoids waste; and after thirty-something years as a wargamer, I've painted so many horses that it's a chore now, so any short cuts are useful.
I don't drink coffee to wake up. I wake up to drink coffee.

Alarich

Hi KOVAV.


So many good basic advices from those familiar with 10mm-Pendraken, so I don't have to add something worth of notice.

But I want to assure you: I'm in a similar situation as you mentioned. After spending a couple of years with 28mm figures (by chance also from GW), now I'm impatiently awaiting the arrival of my very first 10mm-Pendraken. I wanted to try some smaller figures and was quiet undecided, whether it should be 6mm or 10mm.
So I ordered both, and we will see, which scale will impress me the most. (the 6mm guys already arrived, and I think the painting is a bit...challenging, but in general, I think, i's an interesting range)

I hope, that the Pendraken's will present themselves as an optimal compromise between "beeing small" (means: you can afford legions of them and they will only occupy a small space, either on the table as in the cupboard) and giving you the possibility to display a desired minimum of detail...

And now we can lean back and enjoy the freedom, of not having to care about "button colour", "positioning of pockets" or special "Drummer's lace"... (you can replace this with any kind of important uniform/appearance-detail, depending on the time, you are interested in).

But what made me anwer most of all: I felt, that I heard before the words in your signature... after some acoustic investigation: It's "Sons of Odin" from Manowar
Now I'm assured: you are one of the good guys. :d

With very kind regards

Alarich

Luddite

01 October 2011, 12:07:37 PM #17 Last Edit: 01 October 2011, 12:10:11 PM by Luddite
Quote from: Last Hussar on 01 October 2011, 01:52:29 AM
The most important thing about Pendraken (and a number of us can't stress this enough) is DON'T LOOK AT ANY OF THE FIGURES PAINTED BY NIK, or you will just want to curl up in a corner and cry!  :'(  (Ferchrissakes Nik - painting individual fingers is showing off)

:D

Yeah, he sets the standard the rest of us just get jealous about!


Quote from: Last Hussar on 01 October 2011, 01:52:29 AM
1st - File the bottom of the bases.  Pendraken are very good for how little flash their is on the figures, but obviously there has to be a clipping point, and this seems to be underneath.  Given they are effectively N gauge - 2mm =1 foot even a little ridge is relatively huge.  Horses may well have a thin (wire thickness) vent from ground to belly and/or tail.  You may want to file/clip the sides of the base if basing is going to be a squeeze

Yep.  Pendraken figures are some of the most flash-free figures i've ever bought.  This wins.

Funnily eough last night i cleaned, mounted and undercoated 60 Roman horsemen.  All the spears needed straightening (understandably).  Aside from a light file down on the underside of the bases (which i do anyway to 'rough up' the surface for glueing), there was only a single piece of flash that needed clipping off the end of one spear.  Amazing!   :D

I HATE deflashing figures so this makes me a happy Panda... :)

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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: KOVAV on 30 September 2011, 06:20:04 PM
thanks for advice.

Well, you've been amply served by some of our top painters. Do read their tutorials carefully, it's important to get things right - the order in which you paint stuff etcetera. And Nik's advice to maintain a "painting diary" for instance has been a big help to me.

Good luck, I hope to see some of your results soon!

Cheers,
Aart
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KOVAV

I could not ask for more and better advice. I will be following the step by step instructions to the very best of my ability (not that good, but, wth, its the best can do). you guys will be seeing my proegress reports as soon as I get the minitures (why is it that all the best minies are from the UK? if I werent such an AMERICA IZ DA BEZT! RAWR kind of guy at heart, I would move across the pond to make my hobbies a bit more conveniant.) And Alarich; yes, yes that is Sons of Odin, my favorite Man-O-War song, and definately one of my favorite songs overall. for someone who's fammily is filled with both Asatru and service in the millitary, It has particularly deep meaning to me. and, its freaking badass.
Glory and Fame! blood is our name! souls full of thunder! hearts of steel! killers of men! a warriors friend! sword to avenge our fallen brothers to the end! one day to, I may fall; I shall enter odins hall!I shall die, sword in hand! my name, and my deeds shall scorch the land!

Fenton

If I could add a quick note...when it comes to buying paint dont worry about buying litle tubs of black and white as you will use loads of it...Go to an art shop and buy a big tube of black and white acrylic its a lot cheaper in the long run
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

Last Hussar

Quote from: Aart Brouwer on 01 October 2011, 01:51:51 PM
Well, you've been amply served by some of our top painters.
and me.

Quoteif I werent such an AMERICA IZ DA BEZT! RAWR
You can be more relaxed here - this isn't TMP.  If these boards were anything real, they would be a pub- the kind with regulars and a landlord who knows them all and what they drink.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Aart Brouwer

Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 October 2011, 12:46:47 AM
You can be more relaxed here - this isn't TMP.  If these boards were anything real, they would be a pub- the kind with regulars and a landlord who knows them all and what they drink.

Well said, Captain.  m/

Cheers,
Aart
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"No, I do not have Orcs, Riders of Rohan, Dark Elves, Skaven, Kroot Mercenaries Battle Tech, HeroClix, Gangs of Mega-City One or many-horned f****** genetic-mechanoid arse-faced pigmen from the Purple Pustule of Tharg T bloody M." (Harry Pearson, Achtung Schweinehund!)

Luddite

Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 October 2011, 12:46:47 AM
You can be more relaxed here - this isn't TMP.  If these boards were anything real, they would be a pub- the kind with regulars and a landlord who knows them all and what they drink.

:D :-bd

Agreed.  While an undergrad, one of my 3 jobs was as a barkeeper in such a pub.  This forum is indeed like that, only with less cigar smoke.

Its worth considering that this forum is astonishingly troll-free.  Perhaps an indication that its mature* gamers who eventually come to the wonderful world of 10mm, after long years of slavery to the tyranny of 28's?

*For 'mature', read 'i have to take my glasses off to paint these little buggers'...
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http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/

"It is by tea alone i set my mind in motion.  It is by the juice of Typhoo my thoughs acquire speed the teeth acquire stains, the stains serve as a warning.  It is by tea alone i set my mind in motion."

"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - Gary Gygax
"Maybe emu trampling created the desert?" - FierceKitty

2012 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

"I have become inappropriately excited by the thought of a compendium of OOBs." FSN

Aart Brouwer

Quote from: Luddite on 02 October 2011, 10:45:39 AM
*For 'mature', read 'i have to take my glasses off to paint these little buggers'...

=O
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Last Hussar

Quote from: Luddite on 02 October 2011, 10:45:39 AM
  Perhaps an indication that its mature* gamers who eventually come to the wonderful world of 10mm, i]

We have a "top totty" board, and we're the mature ones? :-\
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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O Dinas Powys

Quote from: Last Hussar on 03 October 2011, 12:12:02 AM
We have a "top totty" board, and we're the mature ones? :-\

I like to think that with a mature readership like ourselves it's more artistic appreciation than the pure ogling and lust you might encounter in a younger readership...

:^o

Yeah, who am I kidding!

@-) =P~
(I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;)  )

Last Hussar

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 03 October 2011, 07:55:16 PM
I like to think that with a mature readership like ourselves it's more artistic appreciation than the pure ogling and lust you might encounter in a younger readership...

:^o


;D ;D ;D ;D

I'll have what ever you're drinking!
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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Leon

Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 October 2011, 12:46:47 AM
If these boards were anything real, they would be a pub- the kind with regulars and a landlord who knows them all and what they drink.

Very nicely put!  :-bd
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FierceKitty

Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 October 2011, 12:46:47 AM


 
You can be more relaxed here - this isn't TMP.  If these boards were anything real, they would be a pub- the kind with regulars and a landlord who knows them all and what they drink.
And topless waitresses?
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