Russo-Japanese Naval War 1904-05

Started by paulr, 25 June 2023, 06:58:36 AM

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pierre the shy

Just as well I bought the WCC Library's 1906-07 edition, probably in the same sale, that has all the battle reports in it then :)

I also have found my copy of Jane's contemporary book on the Russian navy which Orcs refers to above....its an interesting read as he compares the Russian and British navies but also broader national "characteristics".

Sorry don't have a copy of the Japanese one, but 2 out of 3 ain't bad!
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
we are not now that strength which in old days
moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are.

paulr

Feel free to bring both along to our next game ;)
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Finished my first cut of all the Ship Damage Summaries (SDS) :-B  @-)  #:-S

Will need to check them for consistency etc over the next week or two...
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pierre the shy

Found convincing evidence that the RN paint scheme changed from black/white/ochre to overall grey in 1903 after the 1902 fleet review and experiments with various colour schemes in the Med in the early 1900's. The exact shade of grey seems to vary between ships/commands/dockyards, a bit like the later IJN schemes.

So grey it will be, when the fleet arrives. At least its not a WW1 dazzle scheme  :)   

Though much is taken, much abides; and though
we are not now that strength which in old days
moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Atlantic fleet(later Home and Grand) is dark grey, Med Fleet light grey, almost white.
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Pierre the Shy has reported the arrival of a large box from Navwar :)
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pierre the shy

Yes the "complete RJW at sea in a box" plus "a few other bits and pieces" ;) turned up yesterday....that marvel of 1970's tech, the fax, still works!

that should keep us entertained for the next little while, in between trialing a few Irish War of the 3 Kingdoms scenarioes of course....

Though much is taken, much abides; and though
we are not now that strength which in old days
moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are.

fsn

A small request. Please don't post anything more about this project.

I am already eyeing the Pendraken Russo-Japanese ranges, and recently re-watched the Kamchatka video and I'm slightly interested in pre-Dreadnaughts, and I don't need another project. :(

Especially don't post any pictures. They have a bad effect on my wallet.



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pierre the shy

I'll get Bill to do a brief benediction at the start of our next call to remove any temptation  :)

Kia kaha! (stay strong) 
Though much is taken, much abides; and though
we are not now that strength which in old days
moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are.

Ithoriel

Quote from: fsn on 25 July 2023, 10:53:10 AMEspecially don't post any pictures. They have a bad effect on my wallet.

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Quote from: pierre the shy on 24 July 2023, 09:17:33 PM..that marvel of 1970's tech, the fax, still works! 

First fax machines were around in the 1800s???
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After some more research on ship colours I've decide on:

Japan
Neutral grey with funnel tops and mast tops on larger ships black

Russia
1st Pacific Squadron
Black: Black hulls, upper works & funnels but with a brown tint due to poor quality lamp-black pigment. Used for all ships not mentioned below
Black&Brown: Black hulls with khaki upperworks looks to have been used during the siege when a number of ships were disarmed to reinforce the land defenses, so won't be used
Brown: Khaki overall for smaller vessels, will use for the Protected cruisers at Port Arthur
Green: Olive-drab - Vladivostok cruisers and the 2nd Destroyer Flotilla at Port Arthur

2nd & 3rd Pacific Squadrons
'Black' with ochre funnels and black funnel tops. The black will be a very dark grey probably with some lighter grey highlights

All with wooden decks and may add some off-white 'sandbags'

I'll prepare and paint some test examples before finalising the paint colours to use
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Pierre the Shy delivered my share of the NavWar order at our regular game last night :)

He had identified that one pack had been missed from the order and it included one of the 4 cruisers at Vladivostok :o 
Fortunately for me Pierre the Shy already had the missing cruiser and very kindly gifted it to me #:-S
He had already added the masts :-bd

I started by sorting all the packs

Japanese


Russian 1st Pacific Squadron, 2nd Pacific Squadron
Some 2nd Pacific Squadron ships in packs with the 1st Pacific Squadron
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I've spent a large chunk of my Sunday sorting and preparing the ships of the Russian 1st Pacific Squadron :)

They have now been drilled for masts and washed

One of the Krechet class destroyers is miscast :(
Fortunately, it is the lower hull  #:-S
Which should be patchable with putty :-SS
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fsn

Quote from: paulr on 28 July 2023, 11:56:58 PMAfter some more research on ship colours I've decide on:

Japan
Neutral grey with funnel tops and mast tops on larger ships black

Yes, photographs from the period will bear that out.  :-\ 

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