CWC-2 Army Lists

Started by Leon, 21 May 2022, 12:04:29 AM

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Big Insect

Quote from: dylan on 31 March 2024, 09:05:44 PMGreat!

Can I ask if the Continuity Project master spreadsheet is being checked by some independent volunteer proof-reader/fact-checker? 

I'd hate for all this work to be done and pdfs published for individual countries, and yet again we find various continuity errors or nomenclature slip-ups marring the finished product.

The advantage of publishing lists on-line is that any minor errors (& there will always be some) can easily be corrected.

To put this project into context - there are over 5,000 unit stats and 12 columns per unit that have been reviewed and checked. It has taken over 6 months to go through these line-by-line and cross-reference each against each-other. There is also a huge amount of subjectivity in a lot of the factors, as a lot of the information is often contested or unconfirmed - even with vehicles that you'd think are pretty commonly known.

TBF the very best form of cross-checking and proof-reading is going to be the wider CWC II player community, who will (no-doubt) be the first to review their favorite list and send in comments  :D

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Going off the book rather any already released errata:

I presume the T-10 tank has been corrected, currently it is an uber-tank more akin to the Is-7, certainly not better than the Conqueror; and the British towed artillery being manhandled 50cm......

Oh yes, before I forget, the Vigilant ATGW has a range of 1375m, which is 65cm, not the current 185cm (!)

I'm not sure why Malkara has 10D6 versus infantry in the open compared to 5D6 against a tank. I know it's a monstrous 8" HESH warhead but if it was that good agin' soft targets everyone would have had one.


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Quote from: sultanbev on 02 April 2024, 10:01:46 AMI'm not sure why Malkara has 10D6 versus infantry in the open compared to 5D6 against a tank. I know it's a monstrous 8" HESH warhead but if it was that good agin' soft targets everyone would have had one.



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Quote from: flamingpig0 on 02 April 2024, 11:57:07 AMIts MCLOS so  wouldn't hit anybody

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Quote from: flamingpig0 on 02 April 2024, 11:57:07 AMIts MCLOS so  wouldn't hit anybody

ATGW cannot be fired at INF: units only vehicles - so the effect is what would happen if it hit a Truck or a 4x4  :o
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Quote from: sultanbev on 02 April 2024, 10:01:46 AMGoing off the book rather any already released errata:

I presume the T-10 tank has been corrected, currently it is an uber-tank more akin to the Is-7, certainly not better than the Conqueror; and the British towed artillery being manhandled 50cm......

> yup - both adjusted

Oh yes, before I forget, the Vigilant ATGW has a range of 1375m, which is 65cm, not the current 185cm (!)

> yup - adjusted

I'm not sure why Malkara has 10D6 versus infantry in the open compared to 5D6 against a tank. I know it's a monstrous 8" HESH warhead but if it was that good agin' soft targets everyone would have had one.

> see comments above - but can happily adjust but I suspect that most players would not want to 'waste' it on a jeep  :D


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PrivatePikeDa

QuoteThe master spreadsheet is complete now so it's a case of transferring all of the revised data into the PDF army lists.  That's quite a task so it'll be something for after Salute.

My question is if there are any plans to release the master spreadsheet as this would make printing short game specific datasheets much easier than trying to copy and paste from a Pdf and having to rearrange the formatting. Having just the units you are using on a sheet in front of you makes playing so much easier. Thanks in advance

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As there is an online army builder for BKC - can't see why there wouldn't be one for CWC
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Quote from: fred. on 16 June 2024, 08:25:24 AMAs there is an online army builder for BKC - can't see why there wouldn't be one for CWC

Thanks tried it and the result was rather restrictive, spaced out over multiple pages with lots of blocks of colourful (expensive) ink. A spreadsheet is much more flexible. Used one available with Fist full of Tow for a number of years. Just asking if one is available for CWC2/BKC4 before I go to the trouble of creating one myself.

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Quote from: PrivatePikeDa on 15 June 2024, 11:12:58 PMMy question is if there are any plans to release the master spreadsheet as this would make printing short game specific datasheets much easier than trying to copy and paste from a Pdf and having to rearrange the formatting. Having just the units you are using on a sheet in front of you makes playing so much easier. Thanks in advance

It's not something we've planned to do at the moment, it's not something I'd considered to be honest.  The bare spreadsheet feels a bit 'unprofessional'?  All of the CWC lists will be going into the army builder and you can export as a PDF or HTML file from there, so you could potentially copy/paste the data into a spreadsheet quite easily I think?
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Is there any news on when this can be expected to launch?

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Quote from: Leon on 17 June 2024, 02:27:43 PMIt's not something we've planned to do at the moment, it's not something I'd considered to be honest.  The bare spreadsheet feels a bit 'unprofessional'?  All of the CWC lists will be going into the army builder and you can export as a PDF or HTML file from there, so you could potentially copy/paste the data into a spreadsheet quite easily I think?

Thanks for the reply. Nice rules btw. It is possible to copy from PDFs into a spreadsheet but in my hands then needs quite a bit of manual editing to make everything line up properly. Did it for my armies when BKC4 came out and started doing it for CWC2 but still quite a few hours to go. Hearing that a spreadsheet actually existed made me ask. Flexible play aids don't feel unprofessional to me but perhaps I'm from a different generation. I've just checked and the spreadsheet for the other ruleset is actually hosted on the publishers website.  Perhaps something to consider?

Leon

We'll have a think, no worries.  I'll see if we can make the Builder downloads a bit easier to work with too.

Quote from: PrivatePikeDa on 17 June 2024, 06:01:31 PMI've just checked and the spreadsheet for the other ruleset is actually hosted on the publishers website.  Perhaps something to consider?

Which ruleset is that?
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QuoteIt is possible to copy from PDFs into a spreadsheet but in my hands then needs quite a bit of manual editing to make everything line up properly.

Have you used this site to convert pdfs to xlsx? https://smallpdf.com/pdf-to-excel

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Quote from: Shedman on 18 June 2024, 11:50:53 AMHave you used this site to convert pdfs to xlsx? https://smallpdf.com/pdf-to-excel
In a state of shock. That worked perfectly, much better than the inbuilt excel importer. Now of to redo all the BKC4 and CWC2 lists in a matter of minutes. Thanks you so much.