Strength and Honour Rules

Started by KeithS, 17 January 2022, 04:59:28 PM

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Gwydion

I was about to post earlier, then thought better of it, but changed my mind again - we seem to judging the rules on the figures rather than on the rules.

I have never heard of them until now I don't think - not on Facebook, no intention of ever being on Facebook, so only a few bits of info found so far.

I like the idea of large scale battles on small tables - have to see what they actually deliver before I can comment on the rules themselves.

Yeah, the name's a bit Leni Riefenstahl isn't it?

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Quote from: Gwydion on 19 January 2022, 12:51:16 AMYeah, the name's a bit Leni Riefenstahl isn't it?

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DecemDave

QuoteRemind me of sticklebricks


Well found.  If some of those protruding side bits could be trimmed off, the rectangular and square ones could surely be painted to look like mass formations bayonets ready?  Anyone else remember the old hair-roller armies?  Might have to dig those out for the cavalry.

Leman

I think I've spotted an interesing dichotomy here. I don't like these therefore....... I like these therefore..... The rules exist, the figures exist so if you fancy the idea have a go, but if you don't then don't. Otherwise you end up sounding like me when I had a downer on fantasy and sci-fi games. Not for me but it doesn't make them wrong or bad. In fact my carping on about them just made me look a prat. Please don't fall into the same trap.
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KeithS

Quote from: Gwydion on 19 January 2022, 12:51:16 AMI was about to post earlier, then thought better of it, but changed my mind again - we seem to judging the rules on the figures rather than on the rules.

I have never heard of them until now I don't think - not on Facebook, no intention of ever being on Facebook, so only a few bits of info found so far.

I like the idea of large scale battles on small tables - have to see what they actually deliver before I can comment on the rules themselves.

Yeah, the name's a bit Leni Riefenstahl isn't it?

Yes it's a bit difficult to get a firm idea on the rules themselves as they haven't been published yet and there doesn't seem to be to be much in the way of summaries around.  I admit I'm a bit late to the party, so I haven't come across much preliminary information, although I did find this blog interview with the author interesting:

Blog interview with Mark Backhouse

I believe that there are demo games arranged at a few wargames shows, but I am still quite wary of attending large gatherings, which is unfortunate as there is one at Vapnartak in my home town soon.
I'll bring up the rest of the brigade.

KeithS

Quote from: Leon on 18 January 2022, 09:38:04 PMWe've been doing the moulding for the Antonine 2mm figures and they're quite fun little sculpts.  They're very small (obviously!) but you can make out things like horses and shield shapes, so you can discern Legionaries vs Auxiliaries vs Cavalry, etc.

That's interesting and the fact that you are involved in the project makes me feel a little less disloyal to Pendraken and 10mm in looking elsewhere for figures.  ;)  :D Happy to support both Warbases and Pendraken mind, two great companies that I have enjoyed dealing with over the years.
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sultanbev

HOR3 looks like they'll be great for 10mm vegetable gardens in full leaf. The Pendraken cabbage patch  :)

Leon

Quote from: KeithS on 19 January 2022, 01:18:16 PMThat's interesting and the fact that you are involved in the project makes me feel a little less disloyal to Pendraken and 10mm in looking elsewhere for figures.  ;)  :D Happy to support both Warbases and Pendraken mind, two great companies that I have enjoyed dealing with over the years.

No worries, Warbases are good guys so I hope these 2mm ranges go well for them.
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fsn

19 January 2022, 06:02:11 PM #23 Last Edit: 19 January 2022, 06:05:21 PM by fsn
Hair roller armies!

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So if that block is Romans, could they also be a Greek phalanx, or a Macedonian pike unit or whatever?

Too small for me ... may as well go to counters for my eyesight. 
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QuoteHair roller armies!

http://flownlegions.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_15.html


So if that block is Romans, could they also be a Greek phalanx, or a Macedonian pike unit or whatever?

Too small for me ... may as well go to counters for my eyesight. 
I like the way Irregular did their 2mm pike blocks.






I'm not sure whether that approach would work when scaled to "Antonine" unit size.

Orcs

19 January 2022, 07:45:59 PM #25 Last Edit: 19 January 2022, 07:50:47 PM by Orcs
Looking at the very well painted (Not by me) 6mm armies I have, I am finding issues identifying stuff, so this small stuff is not for me.

That said I have been intrigued by the Irregular 2mm stuff and it does look ok and can be painted ok.
As to the rules I can see the point of having a single base per legion if you are limited space or cost wise.

But as I have no issues putting together a large table at home  (10 x 4 or 8 x 5) I would rather play mass battles with 10mm Figures, as they look good en-mass and you have room to maneuver in a big battle.

I would however wish Warbases and the author all the best as "One mans meat is another mans poison"

 

 
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Ithoriel

I think the idea is that you would recognise formations not individuals. Solid squares of Romans, blobs of barbarians in various configurations, thin lines of skirmishers and so on.

I've seen designs for chariots and elephants on the Korhyl Miniatures (https://korhylminiatures.bigcartel.com/blog) site but no pike so far.
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Leman

Too small for you, so don't use them. I had porridge for breakfast. It's great. Everybody should eat porridge. Cannot understand these disloyal people who eat granola fokr breakfast. Does anyone really care about my breakfast preferences. This site really does seem to be becoming very curmudgeonly.
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QuoteToo small for you, so don't use them. I had porridge for breakfast. It's great. Everybody should eat porridge. Cannot understand these disloyal people who eat granola fokr breakfast. Does anyone really care about my breakfast preferences. This site really does seem to be becoming very curmudgeonly.


Eh? Am I reading the same forum? I see a few comments along the lines of "Nope, too small for me, but good luck to them".

Hardly curmudgeonly.