Dune 2021

Started by Big Insect, 11 December 2020, 10:41:48 AM

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Raider4

Quote from: Big Insect on 11 December 2020, 06:15:13 PM
they are using a new version of 'Dark Side of the Moon' as the theme song for the trailer

Well, a Hanz Zimmer-produced cover of "Eclipse".

Classy cast. Jason Mamoa and Dave Bautista are always good.

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Quote from: Big Insect on 11 December 2020, 04:01:56 PM
It was ok - I think I enjoyed it at the time but it lost some of the epic scale of the book (that was reduced further by the TV series) but it looks like this new film (which has echo's of Blade Runner 2049 in it) will recapture that and more.
I liked the 'gothic imperialist' approach at the time - it would be interesting to see who influenced who, Steve Jackson or David Lynch!
I also thought the mutated Guild navigator in its tank was great - it will be interesting what the new film does to better that (NB: they appear to be keeping that well under wraps) along with the machine augmentations elements etc.

My issues with the '84 film at the time were:
1). Kyle MacLachlan playing a 15 year old hero didn't really work for me - it will be interesting to see if Timothée Chalamet can pull that off
2). the depiction of the imperial sardaukar in PPE/hazmat suits was terrible - the TV series sardaukar in their Papal Guard berets was even worse !!!
3). the creepy superimposed (painted on the film) glowing blue eye effects was ridiculous

On the overall storyline - I agree that it is heavily redacted or concertinaed towards the end of the book but I remember an interview with Frank Herbert years ago, where he said he was under massive pressure from the publishers to give them something for a specific deadline. I think he'd have liked a lot longer to finish it off.

I must admit I was never a huge fan of the subsequent books - but maybe it was because the original novel was so fresh and new in its concept that it was a hard act to follow.
IMHO it was the 1st true "space opera"

The new film will no doubt be helped by the use of Pink Floyd in the sound track  :D

It did seem to get a strong but mixed reaction between those positive and negative.  I enjoyed it and was positive about it, given the technical limitations they had.  I have never read the subsequent books or seen the TV series so cannot comment on them but I will read with interest here comments from people on the new film.  I suppose the rapid advance in technology gives more opportunity to remake old films but I wish they do more new and original ideas.  FURY, love it or hate, was at least new rather than retread.

Techno II

Quote from: Raider4 on 11 December 2020, 08:18:57 PM
Well, a Hanz Zimmer-produced cover of "Eclipse".

I've heard it......It's rubbish.

Cheers - Marvin  ;)

fsn

But it's Dune!  :(

Never could get into it. Didn't like the books and slept through most of the film.
It's on my "give it a miss" list, but whatever floats your boat.

I'd rather see Dorsaii, Stainless Steel Rat or even Conan as a series.
I hope you enjoy the series.

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mmcv

Quote from: fsn on 12 December 2020, 09:08:37 AM
But it's Dune!  :(

Never could get into it. Didn't like the books and slept through most of the film.
It's on my "give it a miss" list, but whatever floats your boat.

I'd rather see Dorsaii, Stainless Steel Rat or even Conan as a series.
I hope you enjoy the series.



A Conan series could be good, especially if they went more in line with the warrior and theif in the books rather than the half naked Arnie style brute.

Shedman

Quote from: Ithoriel on 12 December 2020, 09:29:26 AM
Dune - loved the books, loved the film, loved the TV series, loved the board game!
The Avalon Hill board game was particularly good


Raider4

Quote from: mmcv on 12 December 2020, 09:42:11 AM
A Conan series could be good, especially if they went more in line with the warrior and theif in the books rather than the half naked Arnie style brute.

I'm still convinced that "The Scorpion King" is the best Conan movie yet made.

Sandinista

Quote from: fsn on 12 December 2020, 09:08:37 AM
I'd rather see Dorsaii, Stainless Steel Rat or even Conan as a series.

Or the Colonel Pyat series of books by Michael Moorcock

Cheers
Ian

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Quote from: Sandinista on 12 December 2020, 06:16:07 PM
Or the Colonel Pyat series of books by Michael Moorcock

Cheers
Ian

Haven't heard of these books  :-
I'll have to give them a look
Regards
Sean

fsn

I tried re-reading some Moorcock recently. Didn't really stand up for me as it did when I read him in the 80s.

Having said that, a TV series on Elric or Hawkmoon would ... ... probably be mucked up by a TV company.
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