Cold War Infantry?

[Sunray]

There or were quite a few French armies in Comps. cause the AMX-30 is a baked bean tin you could get lots of them. There are also quite a few export ones as well, Venezula have a fair few. The VTT is also relativly heavily exported - the Dutch for one, so dont discount French stuff. The French would need another infantry figure though, still in M1 helmet but with bullpup weapons.


Cheers IanS 

Ian - having observed the French Army - up close and personal - their helmet for most of the post war period was the Modele 51 - with a very distinctive straight rim, this was replaced by the Modele1978 -You also find it with the Lebanese Army and with various militia groups.  If they have the "bugle gun", FAMAS , it will be the 1978 helmet as both were issued in that year. 

[Sunray]

Not a lot of votes for Cold War Soviets.  Techno's right- we will stick with fantasy ranges.

[Gwydion]

When you say 'votes' - is there actually somewhere to vote  - or is it just posting here?

If the latter -I'd like to see some Cold War Soviets -

but then I'd like quite a lot more variety of modern(ish) stuf as well:

African proxy cold wars
Armed European civilians for various terrorist type actions
Brits in street patrol gear - Op Banner and the like
Figures and kit for Sovs in Afghanistan
French for Chad and Mali interventions

and no doubt lots more if you give me  a minute

Perhaps even more so now QRF are selling off their modern 15mm stuff.

[Sunray]

Sorry, yes.  - votes for a specific range are logged on the request thread.

I did suggest to Leon long long ago that Pendraken could do a lot worse than follow Peter Pig AK47 range pattern.   But I recognise that it is Leon's trainset. He takes the risks and makes the outlay.

No, the genre for 10mm metal seems to be classical 1980s Cold War. We now have Timecast and Red3 well established.

The Falklands Brits and Argies figures are good from 1958 onwards. The Charlie G came in around 1967. Prior to that you need the Bazooka crew from Korean range Royal Marines. Vigilant MCLOS are not hard to scratch build.

The change in Soviet uniform in 1971 steered the period plan towards the 1970s.  A few years earlier than the "rival"  figures.  As Ian has remarked, there are a few vehicles needed to make a contact playable.

[John Cook]

I'd prefer to see the Belgian WW2 range completed before embarking on a Cold War range.  No interest here in anything post 1940, or fantasy.

[fsn]

I'm up for a 1984 series.

[Ben Waterhouse]

I'm up for a 1984 series.

Me too!

[Sunray]

Me too!

Yeah! I get that. There is a Cold War in minature replay longing amongst BAOR vets. It is because it was the ONE we trained for? All those 1:1 scale wargames on the Notrh German Plain. The absence of death and caranage- so its fond memories of soldering devoid of PTSD - and the desire to see - on tabletop - how long our superior kit and professionalism would hold against the WP hords.

The Timecast Cold War buildings range provide 1st class well researched senics -  Barrie even did a keller crawl around Paderborn to get it right.

If its the 1980s we need a few Smokey Joes - with their 2 stroke Laylands betraying our harbours.   

Typing this reminded me of how the MBT rules changed with thermal imaging - the Battle of 73 easting etc -   

[pierre the shy]

Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?


   

[Sunray]

Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?
 

Good questions! The 10mm limits the size of game to a glorified skermish. The initial "contact" for Red forces heading West.  With NATO deployed in a defence in depth, 0R - an advance to contact .

My own personal preference is an attack by Soviet Airborne.  They seize a bridge (a 1/300 reduntant Arnhem has been used in this very role) -or a key cross roads "Bastogne type" town. 

The Soviet ASU 57 and ASU 85 are in the Pendraken pipeline.  And NATO forces have to shift them before the main WP breaks through.   It also allows play for NATO reserve types.

[John Cook]

"There is a Cold War in minature replay longing amongst BAOR vets."  Not by this one! 

[pierre the shy]

Good questions! The 10mm limits the size of game to a glorified skermish. The initial "contact" for Red forces heading West.  With NATO deployed in a defence in depth, 0R - an advance to contact .

My own personal preference is an attack by Soviet Airborne.  They seize a bridge (a 1/300 reduntant Arnhem has been used in this very role) -or a key cross roads "Bastogne type" town. 

The Soviet ASU 57 and ASU 85 are in the Pendraken pipeline.  And NATO forces have to shift them before the main WP breaks through.   It also allows play for NATO reserve types.

As you're ex-BAOR Sunray you may have seen this 1983 training film about a British bridge demolition guard.....like so many other things someone posted it to youtube:

It would be a very manageble scenario to game....just watch out for those sneaky Spetznaz frogmen and suspiscous "refugees" driving red cars trying to tamper with your explosives.   

[fsn]

Yes it would be good to see the 10mm cold war modern ranges being expanded (More Brits, Soviets & NVA (East German) allies at least).

1. What size of game would you see yourselves playing with them? - Platoon, company or battalion level actions?

2. What would your preferred rules be to game this period?
   

For something in this period, it would be platoon to company size (1:1).  As for rules - well I haven't written them yet.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

  As for rules - well I haven't written them yet.

But I have several times !

[Sunray]

As you're ex-BAOR Sunray you may have seen this 1983 training film about a British bridge demolition guard.....like so many other things someone posted it to youtube:

It would be a very manageble scenario to game....just watch out for those sneaky Spetznaz frogmen and suspiscous "refugees" driving red cars trying to tamper with your explosives.   

WoW !!!  I believe I first watched this "movie" at Sennelager back in the last century.  Thank you very much for posting!  As you say its a very manageable game- good demo game with the movie on a wide screen?

Now the table quiz.  Brigadier and Monkeys apart - a few 1980s badges were on view. For younger members, I have added the contempoary nicknames and clues

1.  Known as the "Lost 6th" after amalgamation - town of origion/association English spelling is with an "E" and not an "I"

2.    Doreen's Ever Ready Rifles - where a battery is not 4 guns, and "charging" is not advancing.

3.  The Greek Guards ?  Or - those poor buggers tasked with guarding  the Greek?

Have fun.