Useful Packs that should be in more than 1 range?

[mollinary]

Pretty well by chance a couple of weeks ago I came across EC 25 and EC 26 in the ECW subset of the renaissance ranges.  They are Gabions and Artillery Equipment respectively.  The former contains 10 good sized and nicely modelled gabions, and the latter a mix of barrels, buckets, piles of differently sized cannon balls, and other containers.  Having purchased a few I am very impressed, but wonder why they are hidden away in one range, when I think they would have much wider utility through a range of periods.  Should they go into the scenery and basing range, or a new accessory range?  What do folks think?  Does anyone care?

Mollinary

[OldenBUA]

I think the same can be said for many items in other ranges too. But of course there are different categories. Some can be used straight away for another army, or another period. For artillery, it may mean swapping the crew. For other items, they can fall in the 'can be used as such and such (with a little work)' category.
I think it would be useful to split off the first category (i.e. all more or less 'generic' items) in a separate 'Accessories' range. With a clear description, and a note of their original timeframe. Or maybe split into different periods, but as you note already, some items can be used in different periods. I think it would work better than listing them in several ranges.
For the other categories, maybe some kind of cross-reference is all that is needed. But it will take someone who knows enough about the period and the armies in question to create such a thing. And it means a lot of work and time, so maybe some kind of community effort is in order? Also, I don't know if any kind of cross-reference could be implemented in the online shop? Which leaves the question of what form a cross-reference should take? Different people will have different opinions on what can and cannot be used for another army or another period.

[Leon]

We can make any item in the website appear in as many different ranges as we want, so that's not a problem.

I've been meaning to put together a section of things which are Generic/Universal for the website, because there are things all over which can be used in a variety of era's.  As you say, the ECW artillery equipment, we've also got things like the Chevaux de Frise in the Ottoman range, the various wagons, stowage and ammuntion boxes, oxen, horses, pack mules, etc, etc, etc.!

I'll see if I can get it done over Xmas and added to the website.

[Last Hussar]

That would be good - a number of times I have hunted through going "They MUST do it, surely".

Somewhere to put the dead horses (not that I'm obsessive or anything)

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

But you cant eat pewter ones......

[fred.]

A grouping of the various useful bits on the website would be great - there is a number times I have discovered all sorts of bits in random ranges, that would be useful elsewhere.

Leon if you need help compiling a list, then tell the forum what format you need the info in and I'm sure we can all chip in suggestions.

[Leon]

Leon if you need help compiling a list, then tell the forum what format you need the info in and I'm sure we can all chip in suggestions.

Basically just the code number for now, and if necessary, a time frame for it's use.  For example, the Chevaux de Frise in the Ottoman range is useful from Medieval upto the WWI even, if I remember right?  Then depending on how many codes there are, I'll split them up into categories, and create a new section for them, with the code, description, which range it's from originally, and what use it has.

Any help/suggestions would be great, I'll go through a catalogue myself when I get chance as well.

[fred.]

Had a spare half-hour so I've been through the more recent ranges and have come up with this list

I haven't included what could be called armed civilians, as there are lot of these in the SCW range.

Post War
Water Buffalo

WWII
BR117 Small Generic Pup Tent
GR13 Alpine cross country skier
GR35 4 wheel general service wagon with team
GR36 2 wheel old style limber trailer with horses
GR44 Boxes and sacks (10)
GR57 Checkpoint - sentry box raise-able barrier
GR141 Boxes and stoves
GR1689 Command tent (2)
GR170 Barricade (approx 90mm)
GR178 Vehicle stowage
GR187 Assault dinghy (5)
GR188 Supply dinghy (3)
GR189 Sand banked street barricade (2)
GR209 Tank traps, 'Dragon's Teeth' - 50mm x 50..
SV49 Tachanka (1)

Interwar
None

WWI
BP36 London Bus
ME21 Open Tourer (1)
ME13a (and other codes)  3 limbers and 12 horses
NEA4  Native porters
WW4 Casualty on stretcher with medic (5)

Colonial
SC9 River gun boat, paddle steamer
SC13 Arab civilians
SC14 Pack camels
SC16 Sitting Camel
ZC11 Bell tents - 3 erected, 2 dropped
BW25 Heliograph team
BW26 Oxen Team
BW27 Armoured train and tender
BW28  Armoured carriage
BW30 Wagon with oxen team (2)
BW31  Block house, earthen roof
BW32 Block house, stone outer wall
BW34 Flatbed carriage with 6" gun and crew (1...
BW36 Armoured carriage with 12pdr in turret (...
BW37 Carriage with canopy, 1pdr pom-pom and M



I would also suggest adding the various landing craft from the British and US WWII lists to the Sea Vessels list

[Leon]

I would also suggest adding the various landing craft from the British and US WWII lists to the Sea Vessels list

Cheers for the list, I'll print that off.  I've just added the LC to the Sea Vessels section as well.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

There are some things in the Fantasy range as well - seige tower, pack mules ?

IanS

[OldenBUA]

SAM18 Bamboo palisade could be of use in other periods as well? Now listed with 16th century Samurai.

[Last Hussar]

SYW casualties in WSS - with a caveat.

[nikharwood]

Some more:

ELM18 Covered wagon, 2 horses
EC25 Gabions
EC26 Artillery Equipment
EC29 Tumbrel Cart
SYW2 Supply wagon & team
SYW12 Civilians
RM12 Supply train, limber, horses, caisson
SCV1 1920s/1930s truck
VM30 Vietnamese civilians
SF20 Civilian men
SF21 Civilian women

[Maenoferren]

NEA4 Native porters
WW3 Carrier pigeon with wicker basket (5)

[Leon]

I'm hoping to make some progress on this one over the weekend.