How did you end up with 10mm ?

Started by Sunray, 28 December 2018, 11:31:00 AM

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d_Guy

In 2012, after the great thirty year hiatus, I unpacked all my 25/28 ECW (which were last organized to play Forlorn Hope) and reorganized them for Pike & Shotte. By late 2013 it was apparent that my 3' x 5' playspace was not sufficient. I began to cast about and discovered 10mm. I have not looked back.
Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

Orcs

Started with Airfix WW2 stuff using some very basic rules when I was about 10.  Then found "Charge! or how to play Wargames". Got my first Wargames board and started to play using many substitutes.  Then got into 1:300 Heroics and Ross  tanks, WW2 and Modern (1980s) Then a friend brought round his 15mm Renaissance by Mikes Models and that started a large collection of Italian wars stuff.

Then I got married and ended up just painting and reading Military modelling.  I then saw a gamer advertising for an opponent a few miles away (must have been about 1990). Went and met him and he was mainly into 20mm WW2 -  We have been friends ever since.  Moving to Herts I started going  to Aylesbury Wargames club, which started all sorts of collections including a big collection of 6mm Irregular DBM armies.  I then got involved with helping out one of the Aylesbury Members with running his stall at shows, He joined forces with Sunjester to become "Behind the Lines" and  this allowed me to feed my addiction.

A change of shifts meant I moved Clubs to Tring. Making my wife an ex-wife and a much more reasonable partner,  an increase in finances,  several friends being available for gaming days during the week meant it has continued to grow. (Mrs Orcs might say expand like a Supa Nova) :)
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industrialtrousers

When GW started becoming more about the shareholders than the hobby, destroyed the old world and started making big models that looked like kids toys. I started playing Warmaster because of the scale despite it having had support withdrawn some years before. I thought I could sculpt my own, turned to be true in part.

Another big push was the storage size down. Houses are small in London.





steve_holmes_11


Airfix ==> 6mm ==> Eyes started to go ==> 10 and 15mm depending on rules.


* 6mm because i was an early adopter of the mess battle look.
* Eyes are very long sighted, and I don't have a pair of specs that can correct for close work (Maybe should chat with the optician - what say the forum?)
* I still question whether I should have jumped up to a larger scale in anticipation of further optical decline.
* 10 or 15 depending on the rules (generally 15 for the skirmish or small warband, and 10s for the bigger battle).

mmcv

I had a brief youthful excursion into painting some GW figures that went no where, then fast forward to this time last year and I got the urge to delve into miniature painting again. Picked up a game of Zombiecide and a Warlord starter set and got to work. I quickly realised that while the big scale is okay for skirmishing, given limits in time, storage and playing space doing anything significant with the big boys was unfeasible. I loved the massed troops look so diving into the smaller scales was an easy sell (and easier on my wallet!) So got some sample packs for 6mm, 10mm and 15mm.

Tackled the 6mm first, Macedonian and Persian infantry, but found them a little frustrating to paint, 15 mm arrived next, a Han Chinese sample pack and I thought I'd found my scale, a joy to paint but still on the smaller size.

Then 10mm came. A pack of English Billmen and Saracen infantry. It was the best bits if what I loved about 6 and 15 and suffice to say many of my (eye watering waste of money) 28s are still languishing on their sprues and my 15 and 6 never went any further than samples, but I now have a large 10mm crusade armies.

Then I came across Pendraken and the great sculpts and friendly community and that just sealed the deal!

I have several projects already planned out for 10mm in the coming year, time and wallet permitting, and though I may stray into other scales again, 10mm feels like home, and there's no place like home!

Orcs

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 30 December 2018, 10:18:23 AM

* Eyes are very long sighted, and I don't have a pair of specs that can correct for close work (Maybe should chat with the optician - what say the forum?)


I am long sighted, and would strongly suggest getting specs for close work.  I also use an Optivisor. If you do not need specs for anything else it might be worth asking the optician if they can give you glasses to correct your long vision and then add a magnification, 1.5- 1,75 times seems about right
The cynics are right nine times out of ten. -Mencken, H. L.

Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: Orcs on 30 December 2018, 11:45:27 AM
I am long sighted, and would strongly suggest getting specs for close work.  I also use an Optivisor. If you do not need specs for anything else it might be worth asking the optician if they can give you glasses to correct your long vision and then add a magnification, 1.5- 1,75 times seems about right

Really appreciate that, I'm sue to visit the optician soon and will discuss my particular requirements.
I have specs for looking at computer screens, because my arms are too short to reach a keyboard (evan with long arms and a fair bit of distance between kbd and screen) and read the screen - that's how far the long sight has gone.

It appears to be a family curse: Affected my grandfather and father.
At this time of year, my favourite demonstration of the "super power" is to pick a tree about a quarter mile away and play a game of "Count the branches / twigs".
However in the last few years it has become a plague for any close work, and I wasn't aware that it could be easily corrected.

Thanks for the tip.

Norm

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 30 December 2018, 02:00:06 PM

At this time of year, my favourite demonstration of the "super power" is to pick a tree about a quarter mile away and play a game of "Count the branches / twigs".


I look a quarter of a mile away and play a game of 'is it a tree'  :D

Dr Dave

6 mm North Africa - models too small / fiddly.

15 mm models too big to reflect the vast sweeping expanse of the desert.

10-12 mm perfect. You can tell what they are and a 6' x 10' table still looks vast.

fsn

When I relaunched my hobby, I discarded everything that I had up to that point. This was mostly 20mm from a variety of manufacturers (Ancients, Medieval, Napoleonics, ACW, Western, WWII), lots of 15mm Peter Laing (ancients, dark age, medieval, Samurai, ECW, Marlborough, Napoleonics, ACW, WWI, WWII) and some 1:300 (WWII, Arab-Israeli, Modern (well 1980s)). I could also field quite a few 15mm SciFi and a few 25mm fantasy left over from my T&T days.

I wanted to find a single scale and preferably a single manufacturer for all period. I quickly rejected 25mm as I think they are too big, especially for C20 periods. I rejected 1:300 as it's too small. I rejected 20mm as I'd done a lot of 20mm and didn't want to go over old ground, and I rejected 15mm 'cos 15mm is dead and doesn't know it yet and 'cos of Flames of War. (I am a contrarian.)

Thus, I alighted upon 10mm, and have never been happier. 

Just painting some of the TB line knights and they are superb! (The sculpts that is ... I'm being very careful and my painting standard has risen to mediocre.  :) )



 
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Heedless Horseman

31 December 2018, 02:36:24 AM #25 Last Edit: 31 December 2018, 02:46:35 AM by Heedless Horseman
Sadly, I have NOT!  10mm IS an excellent scale, allowing you to field large looking units on a relatively small table...yet still great for smaller actions. The size of the pieces...especially AFVs allows detailing, without showing up the 'fails' as much as 1/176 etc.  :)
HOWEVER!
Having amassed huge quantities of 10mm Naps, ACW, ECW and Ancients, my ageing eyes and fingers, find painting the masses rather daunting. I am considering attempting to revisit my rather large leadpile of 25mm Naps and trying to forget the fantastic paint work of others!  :'(  Retro is Good!!!   ;D
I have also developed a stange fascination with trying to improve and detail Skytrex 1/200 WW2 stuff...it CAN be done to some satisfaction...of the "Now, THAT looks Better!" kind. They are easier to work with than 1/285 though ...and customer service is excellent also.
My massive leadpiles of 1/285 and 3mm armour are on hold for the foreseeable future! LOL!  :(
There is also the primal urge to actually build a plastic kit...though, nowadays, an Armourfast Sherman would be easier than an Airfix! But...then, you HAVE to add stowage...etc... :'(
My personal circumstances...(family health problems), do not allow me the time or energy to persue much in the way of hobbytime. (Currently, none!). BUT, I still dream of ''I would like to do this...' and buy the damn stuff!!! lol!  ;)
I would still recommend 10mm to anyone wanting to start up in the wargame field...it 'feels' about right...I cannot enthuse about a 'horde/phalanx/regiment' of maybe 10 figures...however much effort went into the painting! If you can do it...go for numbers and see the battle rather than the 'game'  :)
(40 Yrs ago. I should have been an Angry Young Man... but wasn't.
Now... I am an Old B******! )  ;)

Fenton

Started with Airfix like we all did I think then moved away from wargames and just played RPG's for years. Some chaps at a local club invited me to play in a 6mm French 1940 campaign so used 6mm exclusively for many years.The Crossfire ruleset appeared around the same time as we are one of our infrequent trips to Derby and saw the Wargames South Ranges and decided they would be ideal for the game. It was probably warmaster that convinced me that along with 6mm it was the scale to go with
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

fsn

Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 31 December 2018, 02:36:24 AM
I cannot enthuse about a 'horde/phalanx/regiment' of maybe 10 figures
On that Sir, I agree.
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

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Last Hussar

QuoteThus, I alighted upon 10mm, and have never been happier.

However, it brought you to this Forum, and now the same could not be said of us.
I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain why you are wrong.

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