Dark age and Medieval warship

Started by fsn, 26 September 2017, 08:49:57 PM

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fsn

Gentlemen ...

I am conceiving a desire to visit the Battle of Sluys (read the Longbowman vs Crossbowman Osprey book) but can not find any cogs (10mm  or smaller).

Outpostwargames services do some cogs in 1:1200. Are they any good?   

Does anyone know of any other suppliers?

Now, since I know me, I'll probably be looking for some Dark Age (Early Medieval, Just After the Romans but before the Normans, Sub-Saxon Hegemony, whatever you want to call it) ships too.

I know naval warfare at the time consisted of tying ships together and fighting a land battle ... so 10mm scale would be fine.

All help gratefully appreciated.   



If I don't get any, I'll probably be on the ACW next week, but I'll probably come back to cogs ... later
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Leman

the little cogs are quite nice as you can even make out the fore and aft castle crenellations.
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d_Guy

NavWar also has them (but no pics and may be what Outpost sells)

http://www.navwar.co.uk/nav/default.asp?MMID=78

( i'm perpetually looking for 16th - 17th c ~"n" scale models - most are too expensive!)
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FierceKitty

Heroics and Ros used to make a 6mm scale cog.
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fsn

Thank FK. The cog seems to have gone but they seem to have a range of Viking ships.  :-\
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Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Orcs

Quote from: fsn on 27 September 2017, 07:35:16 AM
Thank FK. The cog seems to have gone but they seem to have a range of Viking ships.  :-

Not Sure Where your looking, they are in the "Renaissance section". Perhaps I could get you some spectacles from Amazon?  :)

I used to have the galleys and they were quite nice. Antiquated order system, but the old guy (80) is a very nice bloke.



Northern European Cog
Code - RS08
£1.50

Mediterranean Cog
Code - RS09
£1.50




more info


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Roy

From this blog:

http://dtbsam.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Medieval%20Naval



"Also recently finished, three 1/1200 cogs from Outpost Wargame Services. These were painted in the black hull / red sails scheme of Jeanne de Clisson,a  noted French woman pirate who, following the execution of her husband by King Philip, terrorised French shipping in the English Channel for many years."

Some more



Navwar:









As I say, not my blog so I don't know any of the details. But I remembered seeing them, so LINKed to them here.
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Ithoriel

Quote from: Orcs on 27 September 2017, 09:12:39 AM
Not Sure Where your looking, they are in the "Renaissance section". Perhaps I could get you some spectacles from Amazon?  :)

I used to have the galleys and they were quite nice. Antiquated order system, but the old guy (80) is a very nice bloke.

I believe the Viking ships fsn is talking about, in response to FKs post, are the Ros & Heroics ones - several different ships plus various 6mm crew.

I'll second the comment about Tony at Navwar (though I'm not sure he's quite that old?) - a scholar and a gent ... and very prompt at despatching my orders.
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fsn

Thank's all.

Those Outpost chappies are tempting me.
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Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
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2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

fsn

Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

fsn


Is it wrong to want to crew some cogs with oversize crew so it looks contemporary? 
Lord Oik of Runcorn (You may refer to me as Milord Oik)

Oik of the Year 2013, 2014; Prize for originality and 'having a go, bless him', 2015
3 votes in the 2016 Painting Competition!; 2017-2019 The Wilderness years
Oik of the Year 2020; 7 votes in the 2021 Painting Competition
11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

d_Guy

Absolutely not wrong  - I think it is valiant.
I for one,  however, would not want to wear full plate armor on a ship were the gunwale hits me right above the knee, but that's me, Mr Cautious.
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Ace of Spades

Buy your plate armour one size bigger and wear some inflated pigs blatters underneath I'd say... :D
It's actually more the corrosive effect of salt water on polished bare metal that would worry me. Especially if you would be wearing French or Italian armour.

Cheers,
Rob
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Westmarcher

Quote from: fsn on 27 September 2017, 09:26:23 PM
Is it wrong to want to crew some cogs with oversize crew so it looks contemporary? 

Surprised that Mike hasn't mentioned "Wendy" boats yet.  :P
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Ithoriel

Quote from: Westmarcher on 28 September 2017, 10:14:39 AM
Surprised that Mike hasn't mentioned "Wendy" boats yet.  :P

Not so much Wendy Boats as confirmation of fsn's odd view on the world :)

After the obliquey unjustly heaped on his head recently it seemed churlish to pick on this!
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