Master list for the new Korean War range - Input required!

[Sunray]

I believe so. The "Red army Handbook" says it did. (The 1942 45mm version.)

Interesting. I only ask because the US army developed a canister round for its 37m and the Marines used it in a  shotgun on steroids role  to decimate Japanese waves at Guadalcanal .

[Matt J]

Sunray.

I have BKC2 but never played them, actually I've never played an historical wargame in my life as yet   so probably not best qualified on any rules questions.

[Matt J]

I could do with a couple of F80 shooting stars though, anyone seen any in 1:144 ?

[Sunray]

The base line would be Hannants who offer OzMod  Shooting Star 14404 at £12.99 + postage -  keep as eye on ebay now you know the going rate - but always factor in the postage rates- can end up that Hannants is cheaper!

[Matt J]

Cheers Sunray, looks like Ozmod do the Sabre and MG-15 as well and there seems to be  couple of UK stockists.

Matt

[Sunray]

Cheers Sunray, looks like Ozmod do the Sabre and MG-15 as well and there seems to be  couple of UK stockists.

Matt

no worries mate -  For your MiG  recommend Eduard £10.99 (buy one get one free!) Sabre - I went with Trumpeter around £6. Decent kit for the money.  No build problems, no flash and paints up well for the money.

Ground attack and close air support experienced a re-think in the late 1970s when research showed that "slow" piston and sub- sonic jets (without swept wings) were more efficient in terms of much needed Close Support accuracy,  than fast jets , not withstanding their  massive payloads (think F4 Phantom and A-4F Skyhawk) . The retro design is epitomised by the A10 and SU 25.  This logic  breathed new life into old slow trainers like the Jet Provost which reborn as the Strikemaster . I have watched a flight of 167s dump of 3k ordinance each on an impact zone. Impressively accurate. 

Unless you just want a bit of eye candy for parking on the ramp, (and dioramas are a much needed wing of the hobby) then Korean CAS aircraft of choice is the AU 1 Corsair with rockets (that's at least a  8/8 in BKC).  BCK will sort your CAS by rule or dice. 

Best wishes

James

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello

Article here about converting Corsair for Indochinese war but equally applicable for Korea.http://indochine54.free.fr/cefeo/corsair.html

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[fsn]

Interesting stuff. 

[fsn]

For your MiG  recommend Eduard £10.99 (buy one get one free!)

Yup. Good kit.

[Sunray]

Yup. Good kit.

Don't know if the Mig 15 was ever used in CAS in Korea.  I would imagine the pilots would like to keep the wings clean for speed  when flying  CAP or radar intercepts.  Sabre pilots would fly very slowly so that the radar would misread their performance as vulnerable types and entice the MiGs to engage.

The MiG 15 has 500 kg of bomb load and a very useful N-37 cannon.  NATO assessments from the use of the N-37 in Nigerian Civil War flagged up its potential for straffing.  Certainly 37mm at high velocity would pose a risk to light armour.   

[fsn]

Don't think I've ever read about them being used in ground-attack, but one's sources may just not have mentioned the fact.

I would imagine that as high value assets, and with the UN's perponderance of air power, they would have been best utilised in the traditional fighter role. I may well be wrong.

My memory tells me that they we restricted as to zone of operations as there were concerns about Russia's new fighter falling into the hands of the decadent West.  Or am I mis-remembering?

[Rob]

My memory tells me that they we restricted as to zone of operations as there were concerns about Russia's new fighter falling into the hands of the decadent West.  Or am I mis-remembering?

And Russia's pilots. 

[Sunray]

Correct Rob.  The MiG was flying on a plagiarised RR engine.  They Labour Government supplied some, and the Russians visited RR with special soles on their shoes that picked up the metal turnings from the lathe, to assist reverse engineering.

The MiG 15s did not stray out of MiG Alley, so CAS would- if strictly wargaming Korea would have been a no-no.

[Gazza]

The MiG was flying on a plagiarised RR engine.  They Labour Government supplied some...

Amazingly that was in the same year that Churchill delivered his famous 'Sinews of Peace' address in Fulton, Missouri. When our American cousins encountered the MiG-15 over Korea several years later and were informed of Attlee's friendly gesture they were understandably none-too impressed. When one considers that the Philby-Burgess-Maclean affair broke the following year, it is little wonder that the yanks started looking at us sideways!

[FierceKitty]

And now you're spelling "yanks" with a lower-case y. Don't antagonise them; they beat you last time....