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[Matt J]

Hi all

Seen this done but I'm not 100% convinced, looks good on the odd weapon.
However on a whim got hold of some Perry mounted men at arms (nice models by the way) and thought I d give this a try on these.
Anyone tried this method, any pit falls, worth the effort?

Cheers

Matt

[FierceKitty]

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[Ithoriel]

FK, it's a technique that seems to have gained ground among competition painters whereby metallic effects are achieved using non-metallic paints. So, for example, rather than using gunmetal highlighted silver for steel armour you'd use greys and white to achieve the same effect.

Unless it's done perfectly, with exactly the right shading and highlighting it looks weird to my eyes. Even when done perfectly it often works better from some angles than others IMHO.

I have every confidence you could do it Matt, just not sure why you'd bother.

Frankly it's in my "solutions looking for a problem" basket.

I'm not a competition painter so I'm going to stick to metallics thanks.

If you go ahead .... pics or it didn't happen

[FierceKitty]

Ta. But it sounds like one for the latter-day Titians and Chardins among us, not the Jackson Pollocks like me.

[Orcs]

I have some Orcs and Goblins (what else?) done like this, by a painter friend who is way out of my league.  He is Constable  to my 3 year old toddle.  They look very nice, and fit in with my metallic metal figures.

They obviously take far more time than using metallic. Time I could use better to paint other figures.  If you painting them for gaming why bother.

I would go with Ithoriel with the "solutions looking for a problem" basket.

Unless your just looking for a challenge that is

[Leman]

Never even going to think about this, let alone try it. After all I'm not Jackson Pollock, more like Jackedoff Bollock.

[Nirnman]

I have to admit that for WW2 infantry I use a mix of Vallejo basalt grey and German grey for guns rather than gunmetal and it IMHO looks fine.

[Matt J]

I use metallics on smaller scales and I paint mostly 10mm but now and again I like to paint larger 28mm models. Lately it has been Bloodbowl teams but I have the urge to paint some historical stuff, which I've never done before, so I chose to do WotR using the Perrys range and slowly build up an army over time.
There is a lot of armour on these models and I've always found metallic paints look a bit tinny, even with good shading, over large areas.

Unless it's done perfectly, with exactly the right shading and highlighting it looks weird to my eyes. Even when done perfectly it often works better from some angles than others IMHO

I have the same reservations but I suppose the only way to find out is give it a go.

[Subedai]

There are quite a few tutorials on the web for those who want to try it. It's okay for competition figures or the clever bu**ers but for me...not at all.

MickS

[petercooman]

I must say i don't really like the look of NMM

I find that you are better off with metallic paint, and if it shines too much, just apply a good layer of matt varnish.

Life is too short 

[FierceKitty]

Words of wisdom. If you want an army without metals, well, there's Mexico for that.

[Luddite]

Done well it can look good:





But the time and effort required means its not really viable as a technique to get an army on the table.

[Techno]

That is rather splendid, but as already been said, looks more suitable for painting comps, rather than the table ?

Cheers - Phil

[Matt J]

The top one is the kind've idea I'm looking at but I guess the general consensus is 'not worth the effort' so I'll definitely have to have a go   
I'll post some pics (good or bad).

[FierceKitty]

Good luck.