Battle of Liscarroll using Baroque

[fred.]

I'm aiming to paint both sides, but it does just take longer - especially as I have gone for big units with 40-50 figures to a unit.

[Westmarcher]

Good batreps, d_guy. Enjoyed these. 

I was slightly puzzled by the numbers, however. In your blog you said the Irish army was substantially larger ("a near three-to-one advantage in foot") and both sides had roughly 500 horse. In your opening post you mentioned that the Irish Army was roughly 8000 strong. Deducting 500 horse leaves 7500 (which would mainly be foot). As deducting 500 horse from the 'English' total is only 1500, this means your numbers result in a five-to-one advantage in foot. 
Could it be you made the Irish foot too strong?
Also, the blog you provided the link for talks about the Irish being roughly 6,400 strong. I'm not familiar with Baroque so maybe your troop numbers on the table were nevertheless right but it was just a thought in case that also affected the results of both games.   

[toxicpixie]

Ouch, a general per tercio with a high VBU would make them pretty unstoppable except for remarkable dice throws! Or getting multiple units shooting well at each one in the same turn, maybe.

Looks like two good games, mind

[d_Guy]

Thanks for your comments also, Westie! I really appreciate questions and comments since I am stuck out here as a solo player and frequently miss obvious things that would be quickly resolved if I could game with othe humans
The Irish had between 6000 and 8000 at Liscarrol, mostly foot, mostly pike. Barry's own regiment (about 1000 men), as far as I can tell, were the only Irish foot present that might truly be considered conventional musket and pike. With the exception of the Irish pike block(s) in the center (about 2000 men), the rest seemed to have been a collection of troops with pikes, improvised weapons (or even no weapons!) and various types of firearms (not a high number and which I rated as arquibus). I was probably using the lower number when thinking about the 3 to 1 but excellent point on the math in ant event.

I am now using Baroque because I very much like the game mechanisms which are reasonably simple but very engaging and entertaining.
They aren't particularly designed for scaling units (at least to give finally tuned orders of battle). In the two games I reported one of my game pieces (three per unit) represent about 200 men for formed infantry (a few of the Irish units had weaker 150 man pieces). Zippee (and others) have correctly pointed out (elsewhere) that Baroque is all about what a unit represents and its capabilities, not the number of figures included. I am only starting to figure this out.

Still the short  answer is - yes I may have made the Irish too strong! Results would certainly suggest that!

Historically, Inchiquin gambled that he could defeat the Irish horse and then turn the Irish flank, which, after some mishaps, he did. I'm not sure that he could have repeated his success in a do-over. Fred has also pointed out that the Irish horse may be a bit overrated also (not to mention his reminder about the "recruit rule"!)

When I do Liscarroll again I'll implement the various suggestions

Thanks also, TP. With only three Irish foot units there were plenty of generals to go around!  . Of those three tercios, however, two should have been "recruits" so that could have made a big difference to the effectiveness of the English shooting. The English musketeers did manage to kill one of the Irish generals, so that's one way to do it!

Thanks again all