New WWII and Modern vehicles released!

Started by Leon, 28 August 2015, 12:19:28 AM

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Westmarcher

If you need any help, don't ask Phil. He's good at stripping stuff to the bone .... but not in a way you would like.   :P
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

Techno

Quote from: Westmarcher on 06 September 2015, 02:53:16 PM
If you need any help, don't ask Phil. He's good at stripping stuff to the bone .... but not in a way you would like.   :P

You should have seen what I did with a small screwdriver this morning...That was very close to the bone.
I was trying to pry the back off my dear old Dad's clockwork stopwatch, which had stopped working for some reason.......and I slipped....OOPS !  :-[
(Sadly this is true...again  X_X.....I seem to be going through a period of self mutilation, after months of relatively injury free sculpting, etc.)

'Least I didn't fall off the ladder, cleaning out the gutter on the big barn yesterday.

Cheers - A Muppet.

Rob

Quote from: mart678 on 06 September 2015, 01:59:53 PM
Do you want some Helicopters as well????
My experience with metal copters and other aircraft is dire.  :'(  (I have a still-born Vietnam project where I was attempting to build a U.S. cavalry unit. I have around 8/9 Minifigs copters and found them difficult to say the least.
1. The stands they were provided with are metal and almost useless. A better approach has to be thick wire stands.
2. I found them very difficult to paint, so much so I couldn't be arsed to persevere. (I am the world's laziest painter! I only like it when I have finished.)
3. The solid metal makes for a very top heavy model very prone to toppling over.

If they are available I would always go for a Revell type model, but Leon says they are packing it in. Hind, Hip, Lynx, Puma and Gazelle models are needed while the U.S. stuff would always be available from 1/144 manufacturers.

Not a definitive answer I know.  :(

Sunray

Quote from: Rob on 06 September 2015, 12:25:55 PM
It certainly looks as though they are as they are listed in their order form under North Korean.

 :)

Yes, Rob you are correct.  I have seen the actual figures on 'the forgotten war blog' -  and despite not being on the catalogue they are indeed listed on the Order Form - not that I will be ordering any.  Apart from the caricature cartoon style sculpts they are in 'winter clothing'.

Bad marketing decision; for gamers like me who have no interest  gaming Korea - the topography means that figures need bases with Velcro to handle the gradients - worse still,  the cocooned   nature of the winter clothing precludes any application of the figures for other more interesting post war games. 

Now if Pendraken sculpt and cast South Korean (ROK) and North Korean figures in summer uniforms that can be used for a host of Third World armies (1960-80) I will be sending Leon an advance order tonight.... 

ROK - Basic American uniforms with field caps, M1 Carbines , grease guns, Brownings , bazookas - North Koreans with distinctive field caps, and Soviet kit like  DP28s.....



Leon

Quote from: Sunray on 06 September 2015, 09:45:16 AM
Seriously Leon -  Perhaps the strategic approach is to set out the stall as to where Pendraken is going.  A few well sculpted figures to 'mark the turf' - 10mm 'boots on the ground' that makes a statement that Pendraken will have a modern range.  I know a lot of customers who would belay purchasing figures from other manufactures if they knew that Techno was turning his hand to a well sculpted figure of modern British soldiers with SA80, and the new helmet etc.   The token release of figures makes the statement that a comprehensive range is coming.

I think I've said a few times on here that we're focussing on the vehicles first as those are more time-consuming.  Once we've got a good selection ready and released, adding a load of basic foot would only be 6 months worth of sculpting in theory.  Doing it the opposite way around, with a token release of figures, brings in more queries/requests/frustration as we don't have the required vehicles to go with them and folks are having to wait years rather than months for their chosen request to arrive.

Also as mentioned earlier, Phil is busy with the Warband expansion for the foreseeable and won't have any spare sculpting time until early 2016 I'd expect.
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Techno

OOOOH !!! (Squeaks of excitement !!! <:-P <:-P <:-P)

Quote from: Leon on 06 September 2015, 09:14:15 PM
Also as mentioned earlier, Phil is busy with the Warband expansion for the foreseeable and won't have any spare sculpting time until early 2016 I'd expect.

Growing that extra pair of arms, as I type !  :D ;)

Cheers - Phil

Sunray

Quote from: Leon on 06 September 2015, 09:14:15 PM
I think I've said a few times on here that we're focussing on the vehicles first as those are more time-consuming.  Once we've got a good selection ready and released, adding a load of basic foot would only be 6 months worth of sculpting in theory.  Doing it the opposite way around, with a token release of figures, brings in more queries/requests/frustration as we don't have the required vehicles to go with them and folks are having to wait years rather than months for their chosen request to arrive.

Also as mentioned earlier, Phil is busy with the Warband expansion for the foreseeable and won't have any spare sculpting time until early 2016 I'd expect.

You are the boss Leon - its your business and I am not going to presume to tell you how to run it.   

But one point to remember - its the figures (uniform, headgear, weapons) that ultimately define a range and stimulate the sales. Without them you have just an assortment of vehicles that - unless you are collecting vehicles in 1/150 - will sit unsold until wargamers have decent   figures to put next to them.

So its back to good old pester power to lobby for Korean and Modern figures ..... I say to hell with it, fellow forum members -  Cry Havoc and release the Dogs of queries/requests/frustration ...

Ithoriel

As one for whom WW2 Hungarian infantry are German infantry painted brown and the difference between a T34/76 and a T34/85 is "these are actually T34/76s" the idea that it matters what rifle a figure is armed with is coming as a revelation!
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kustenjaeger

I think we are pretty well off for mid 1980s British with the Falkland range but admit I hanker after WarPac opponents and have some sample infantry and a BMP from another manufacturer.  Luckily I have so much else to paint I suspect Dave and Leon will have a relevant modern range out before I would get to start painting anyway ...

Edward

Mako

I know I sound like a broken record, but early Cold War vehicles are completed, as are troops that can be used for them, e.g. Americans for Vietnam, and British (really Argentines with SLRs - at least as listed in the catalog) for other factions, e.g. Danes, very early Bundeswehr (late 1950s - early 1960s), etc..

Sadly though, there are no Soviets, or Warsaw Pact infantry to fight with them.

A terrible shame really, since those T-55s, PT-76s, BTR-152s, IS-3s, and BTR-50s/OT-62s could be used now, for battles from the 1950s - 1970s, and perhaps beyond in some cases.

M48s, M113s, and M125s (doubles as the M106) can be used for Americans in Europe, as well as for the early West Germans/Bundeswehr, there are Centurions, Conquerors, and Landrovers for the British, Danes, Swedish, etc..  Scorpions and Scimitars too.

Without the Soviet/W.P. troops though, all of the above are a bit superfluous for the Cold War, which is a shame, given that the new SabreSquadron rules are due out this month, and others are in the works from various manufacturers too.

Hurrah

Liking the Fiat 508, Can we have more Fiats, especially trucks

The 508 was widely built, this is from the wiki page on the vehicle

"The car was also assembled by Walter Motors a.s. in Czechoslovakia, in the Centralne Warsztaty Samochodowe factory in Poland, by NSU-Fiat in Germany and by "SAFAF" (rebranded in 1934 as "Simca-Fiat") in France"

So, in theory, usable by Czechs, Polish, German and French forces (And possibly Hungarian and Romanian forces as well). A panel van version would be a nice fit for some uses.

The Fiat 621 truck was another design licensed out to Poland and France. So a worthy contender to cover several forces accurately with the same model.

Dave

14 September 2015, 12:42:05 PM #86 Last Edit: 14 September 2015, 02:12:48 PM by Leon
Quote from: Mako on 09 September 2015, 01:47:01 PM
I know I sound like a broken record, but early Cold War vehicles are completed, as are troops that can be used for them, e.g. Americans for Vietnam, and British (really Argentines with SLRs - at least as listed in the catalog) for other factions, e.g. Danes, very early Bundeswehr (late 1950s - early 1960s), etc..

Sadly though, there are no Soviets, or Warsaw Pact infantry to fight with them.

A terrible shame really, since those T-55s, PT-76s, BTR-152s, IS-3s, and BTR-50s/OT-62s could be used now, for battles from the 1950s - 1970s, and perhaps beyond in some cases.

M48s, M113s, and M125s (doubles as the M106) can be used for Americans in Europe, as well as for the early West Germans/Bundeswehr, there are Centurions, Conquerors, and Landrovers for the British, Danes, Swedish, etc..  Scorpions and Scimitars too.

Without the Soviet/W.P. troops though, all of the above are a bit superfluous for the Cold War, which is a shame, given that the new SabreSquadron rules are due out this month, and others are in the works from various manufacturers too.

At the moment we do not have any spare cash to do more than we are doing, hence after the warband are complete Techno will be doing the infantry.  We do not have an unlimited pot of money >:(

Dave


EDIT: Quote fixed.

Ithoriel

Quote from: Dave on 14 September 2015, 12:42:05 PM
At the moment we do not have any spare cash to do more than we are doing, hence after the warband are complete Techno will be doing the infantry.  We do not have an unlimited pot of money >:(

Dave

I think all most of us realise that Dave but wargamers are always looking that set of figures that fills the gap in a range (often a gap only they can see!) or that creates a range in the first place and because money and sculpting talent are limited we all tend to do our best to divert attention and resources to "our" figures.

If Pendraken didn't make such exceedingly nice figures and if they weren't so delightfully happy to engage with their customers you wouldn't get the clamour for this figure or that, seen here. However frustrating it must be to have FK banging on about Aztecs, fsn about Centurions, weewars about 1809 or that oik ithoriel bleating about Soviet 208mm tracked artillery it is, in it's way, a mark of our respect for and love of Pendraken Miniatures.

Victim of your own success Dave :)

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Dave

Quote from: Ithoriel on 14 September 2015, 01:02:37 PM
I think all most of us realise that Dave but wargamers are always looking that set of figures that fills the gap in a range (often a gap only they can see!) or that creates a range in the first place and because money and sculpting talent are limited we all tend to do our best to divert attention and resources to "our" figures.

If Pendraken didn't make such exceedingly nice figures and if they weren't so delightfully happy to engage with their customers you wouldn't get the clamour for this figure or that, seen here. However frustrating it must be to have FK banging on about Aztecs, fsn about Centurions, weewars about 1809 or that oik ithoriel bleating about Soviet 208mm tracked artillery it is, in it's way, a mark of our respect for and love of Pendraken Miniatures.

Victim of your own success Dave :)

"There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." - Oscar Wilde


I wish I could do everything straight away >:(

Dave

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