French Napoleonic Artillery Codes question

[old smokie]

should the French artillery codes below which are on the website be Line Horse artillery and not guard horse artillery ? a bit confused with the post about the new french guard artillery sculpts

NPF26 4pdr gun with guard horse crew (3)
NPF28 8pdr gun with guard horse crew (3)
NPF32 Guard horse artillery crew in greatcoat (12)

[Leon026]

As far as I know, the new sculpts aren't being sold yet...?

[old smokie]

I am aware that the new sculpts are not on sale but the codes above are on the website and have been for some time, I think they are mis-labelled and should be line horse artillery and not guard horse artillery. Maybe Leon or Dave could clarify

[old smokie]

@ Leon & Dave

any clarification ?

[Rob]

I have NPF28 and the crew have colpaks and not shakos.

[old smokie]

thanks, do you know if they are old sculpts and the new one's on the new releases thread are the replacements, seems strange to have two versions of the same group of figures

[WeeWars]

It's all a bit complicated, as usual with Napoleonics.

I believe there are Guard Foot crew being released with the fur bonnet. This is great if you're doing Waterloo but excludes them from the 1809 range as the bonnet wasn't issued until May 1810.

I would expect - and am certainly hoping - that the 1809 range will be completed with Guard Foot crews with shakos, cords and plumes, eagle plates, fringed epaulettes, and pigtails.

The present Guard Horse crew have the colpack busby so are definitely usable for Guard Horse - from Consular period to the end of Empire.

What we need is Line Horse crew with hussar boots and pointed cuffs. And cords and plumes, fringed epaulettes, high open jacket front and vest, coat tails to below knee, grenade shako plate, one cross strap, sabres on belt.

[Leman]

..... and that is why I've never been keen on Napoleonics - horse and musket for rivet counters.

[old smokie]

thanks weewars, that explains a lot 

having never done the french before its all very confusing. I should maybe stick to doing minor nations as I did before many moons ago

[Rob]

Well done Michael, I have learnt something. 

[WeeWars]

..... and that is why I've never been keen on Napoleonics - horse and musket for rivet counters.

This from a hardly obsessive range of 6mm Napoleonics:


NFR08S - French Foot Artillery, 1806-1812 - 6pdr

NFR32S - French Foot Artillery 1812-1815 - 6pdr

and:

NFR30S - French Horse Artillery 1806-1812 - 6pdr

NFR31S - French Horse Artillery 1812-1815 - 6pdr


Just perhaps, then, not so much the minutiae more if it makes an acceptable difference in 6mm then why advocate that 10mm shouldn't be bothered?

And, in immediate defence of Napoleonics in the general world of Horse and Musket:


"There are a number of helpful tables allowing the reader to track down the myriad changes of turnback colours, musicians' distinctions, and officers' lace, to name but a few. A colour table identifying all the colours (including the six different types of green!) used to distinguish Austrian regiments will be a mine of information for the wargamer who must distinguish his Parrot Green from his Apple Green, or his Sea Grass Green from his Grass Green."

from a Miniature Wargames, June 2015, review of Austrian Infantry (not) of the (Napoleonic Wars but the) Seven Years War by Stephen Summerfield.


So, I would advocate play and let play.