ww2 French infantry

Started by Dave, 17 April 2015, 01:47:11 PM

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Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

With the skis he cant use, no straps to connect to the boots...

Well organised the Norway campaign.

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Dave

Quote from: ronan on 18 April 2015, 09:37:43 AM
How could I forget that..  :-\    ;)
They'll also be useful for Norway! :)  ( and some fights in the Alps )
The beret of alpines troops ( "Chasseurs Alpins" ) was (and is ) larger, and is called "tarte"  ( pie )
See this for a chasseur alpin in Narvik, 1940

>:(
( I know it's a joke, but some people still believe it...  in 45 days, 552,900 soldiers were killed or wounded for bot sides, 342,000 of them were french..  For Normandy 1944, (3 months) the allied lost 209,000 men,  while the german lost 240,000 and many prisonners. (1)    I let you compute for daily casualties ...  in less time, more losses in 1940 .  This "myth" was largely spread by Vichy propaganda, for ages... )
I know it's fun, but I always overreact   ;)  sorry

(1) add 50,000 civilians.

Edit : to add a date

I could do a surrendering figure to go with the Brit in the BEF range?

Dave

ronan

Quote from: Dave on 18 April 2015, 10:13:06 AM
I could do a surrendering figure to go with the Brit in the BEF range?

Dave

Sorry, as I said, I overreacted  ;)
That would be a good idea

Dave

Quote from: ronan on 18 April 2015, 10:19:15 AM
Sorry, as I said, I overreacted  ;)
That would be a good idea

Was the alpine uniform tunic and breeches and putteess the same cut as the standard foot :-\

Dave

toxicpixie

Surrendering or panicking or dead/wounded figures are often handy these days - there's lots of rules sets they're useful in, from PBI to 5core to Bolt Action, or the Commander series for modelling suppressed units without using a dice etc etc.

So not a bad idea, in all fairness :)

Ofc you'd need "Brits brewin tea" or "Gunner running with helmet covering tea pot instead of his head" etc ;)
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fsn

I'm sorry, but that overlarge beret is very ... camp.
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fsn

I was not disparaging the fighting abilities ... just the beret.
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Didn't mean to imply you were - I got to this thread a bit late. Sorry if I gave an unintended impression.
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Hi Ronan

It was only a tease, and no offence was intended.

I am fully aware that it was the Government that surrendered not the Troops or the population. Many of the British only got off the beach at Dunkirk due to the French holding the Germans back, and many of those French soldiers  returned to Britain to continue the fight.

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ronan

Quote from: Dave on 18 April 2015, 10:35:23 AM
Was the alpine uniform tunic and breeches and putteess the same cut as the standard foot :-\

Dave

I think they used many things..  what would be useful for gaming ...? I won't give a good advice, as I mainly use skirmish (CoC) so I need ALL  ;) May we use a poll ?  ( with the "tarte" and skis ? )


Here's a summarize of what I've got ( I should write something on my blog, as Vichy stole their story as soon as november, 1940 ... :-\  )

Narvik, Norway, 1940  :

They also fought with "regular" helmets..

In the Alps  :


and more :









Thank you.


Quote from: fsn on 18 April 2015, 11:29:20 AM
I was not disparaging the fighting abilities ... just the beret.
Don't say this in front of one of these proud and elite soldier !!  ;)  

Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 18 April 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Hi Ronan

It was only a tease, and no offence was intended.

I am fully aware that it was the Government that surrendered not the Troops or the population. Many of the British only got off the beach at Dunkirk due to the French holding the Germans back, and many of those French soldiers  returned to Britain to continue the fight.

Mark



Yes, I know you knew that.. But some people  ( young people ? ) are still seriously thinking this.. So I wanted to write this.  Again, I'm sorry if I was a bit aggressive.

Dave

Quote from: fsn on 18 April 2015, 11:02:37 AM
I'm sorry, but that overlarge beret is very ... camp.

How can you say that after the picture you posted of me smoking a pipe >:(

Dave

Thanks for the information so far, it will help me put a mster list together for the designer for next month.  :D

Looking at the pictures of the Alpine troops, baggy trousers gaiters, jacket and helmet - this would make them slightly different to troops in puttees, tunic helmet for the designer??

Dave

Fenton

Would these work for WW1 as well?
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ronan

Quote from: Dave on 18 April 2015, 12:17:28 PM
Thanks for the information so far, it will help me put a mster list together for the designer for next month.  :D

Looking at the pictures of the Alpine troops, baggy trousers gaiters, jacket and helmet - this would make them slightly different to troops in puttees, tunic helmet for the designer??

Dave

The fortress troops used a smaller béret, and - I think - their vests were the official release.

But the chasseurs alpins wore a shorter jacket.  Their trousers were  also shorter, looking a bit like golf trousers.

They got some leather and  sheep uniforms in Norway, different again :




Quote from: Fenton on 18 April 2015, 12:18:56 PM
Would these work for WW1 as well?
I don't think so. They changed in 1920..
( but if you paint as bad as me, you could use them as proxies  :P     ;)  )