10mm or 15mm?

Started by cudders, 27 March 2015, 11:01:59 PM

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cudders

A package arrived today with some ECW and WOR samples.

Firstly thanks Leon!

Secondly, what lovely sculpts they are!

I did intend to paint them but checking out my paint stash confirmed how long it is since I've painted anything! Most solid except for the Model Colour bottles.

So triples it is with a wedge of cash for paints and some more Pendraken goodies!

I am now a 10mm convert.  :-bd

Cudders

Leon

Quote from: cudders on 07 April 2015, 05:46:40 PM
A package arrived today with some ECW and WOR samples.

Firstly thanks Leon!

Secondly, what lovely sculpts they are!

I did intend to paint them but checking out my paint stash confirmed how long it is since I've painted anything! Most solid except for the Model Colour bottles.

So triples it is with a wedge of cash for paints and some more Pendraken goodies!

I am now a 10mm convert.  :-bd

Excellent, good to hear the package arrived safely and glad you like them!  We can certainly sort those paints out at Triples, and give me a shout if you'd like anything in particular bringing along to the show.

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Quote from: cudders on 07 April 2015, 05:46:40 PM
A package arrived today with some ECW and WOR samples.

Firstly thanks Leon!

Secondly, what lovely sculpts they are!

I did intend to paint them but checking out my paint stash confirmed how long it is since I've painted anything! Most solid except for the Model Colour bottles.

So triples it is with a wedge of cash for paints and some more Pendraken goodies!

I am now a 10mm convert.  :-bd

Cudders

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Leon026

As owner of several Flames of War armies (WWII) at 15mm scale, my preference for WWII will naturally be 15mm to go with my collection and the ruleset. There's also a gigantic selection of 15mm choices for WWII as well.

That said, for my napoleonics, hands down 10mm. I've tried 6mm and 28mm - and 15mm for Naps I've stayed away from.

Economics has a bit to do with the hobby, you see for FoW and WWII, 5-8 EUR can get you a working unit, whether its a tank or an infantry platoon. At 30-40 EUR you can get one of those infantry company box sets that will give you a force that you can actually start gaming with (iirc, the SS Panzergrenadier company box set is worth about 1000pts).

For Naps though... yes, depends on the ruleset, but at 15-18mm, 40 EUR will get you a brigade (according to the N@W store). I dont really think Naps should be played at Brigade level, personally. While with WWII you can get away with playing a battlegroup, a company or even at squad level, for Naps that just feels... wierd, to me anyways. Which is why my naps are being built to be played at Division or Corps level (Lasalle, Blucher).

Imagine playing a division level game with 40 EUR per brigade! Ouch! So economics wise, 6mm and 10mm offer far more reasonable prices. Besides, from what I can see, Nap miniatures dont really come in 15mm, but in 18mm.

Sculpt wise, its true that 18mm sculpts are beautiful, and thats where 6mm begin to take a hit. I think Adler is the way to go if you go 6mm, but fragility is a huge thing with 6mm. They bend and break so easily.

Also detail comparison between some 6mm and 10...

http://battlegoatsandtrumpets.blogspot.fr/2014/04/the-future-of-my-nappies.html
http://battlegoatsandtrumpets.blogspot.fr/2015/04/austrian-reinforcements.html

Can't argue that 10mm has by far the better sculpt, especially Pendraken naps. And they aren't fragile either, as you dont get packs of infantry with their bayonets already broken off in the bag.

The detail of Pendraken's 10mm Naps though are just something else. The level of detail just makes it such a joy to paint, that if you're going Napoleonics, 10mm hands down.

GordonY

08 April 2015, 06:51:17 AM #80 Last Edit: 08 April 2015, 06:53:40 AM by GordonY
Try

http://www.dbnwargaming.co.uk/

or



for economical Napoleonic wargaming in 15mm (or any scale really) knocks those silly FoW prices into a cocked hat.

cudders

Thanks for the links guys.

Have played Fast Play GA for a while now so not 100% sure how I'll go with the Naps this time.

Much prefer Brigade bases rather than fiddling about with smaller units.

Cudders

Fenton

With you on the brigade thing
If I were creating Pendraken I wouldn't mess about with Romans and  Mongols  I would have started with Centurions , eight o'clock, Day One!

GordonY

Yep cant think of a single Napoleonic battle that you can represent using multi stand battalions, unless of course you have a 30 ft x 18 ft table (requires 10 ft long arms of course)

And of course theres the other thing, who really believes that Wellington or Napoleon actually ordered individual battalions to form square/line/column? All a general would know would be where a brigade/battalion was, he wouldnt have a clue as to what poncy formation dance they were performing. So the question is are you a general or a colonel?

cudders

Bang on Gordon  ;)

Cudders

FierceKitty

Quote from: cudders on 10 April 2015, 01:25:54 PM
Bang on Gordon 


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lekw

A big advantage in my opinion of 10mm Pendraken over Adler 6mm is that the Pendraken figures are much more durable. I am clumsy and drop figures and bases all the time both playing and painting the Adler figures tend to break constantly especially the bayonets the Pendraken never do. Now if Pendraken can just make some new figures for the French Revolutionary period or some 1806 Prussians!!!

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