Anyone play "Flames of War? "

[getagrip]

Skirmish - Flying Lead by Ganeshaq Games
Company - sorry dont do that
Battalion to Division - BKC2

FoW is just rediculous, seen way too many games with a platroon of tanks running bogie to bogie, why? Because the rules reward unhistoric play, as mentioned above its just Warhammmer 2K. Get onto ebay and buy a copy of BKC2, then ask that nice Mr Leon for 2 army packs that match Early Desert War is a hoot, with tanks clad in tinfoil armout and armed with popguns. Plus being desert the terrain is dead wasy.

Let me suggest Blitzkrieg commander,

It is warmaster in the WWII. As you know WM mechanics you could start playing reading Blitzkrieg in a morning.

Think we have a winner here gents; thanks for all the ideas.  Problem with this is it's so subjective and based in personal preference

Chaos's comment is the money shot; if it's like WM then that works for me!

Here we go then, next question.

I want two realistic German / Russian armies (a la Stalingrad) which would play in about 2-3 hours.

Any thoughts (Leon, get the burners ready )

[Fenton]

If you can stilll find it then Crossfire by Arty Conliffe is a great little game. the armour rules are a little weird but the game plays well. Not sure how well it would work playing solo though

A quick mention of FoW. For what is described as a quick WW2 game. I think it is perhaps one of the most over complicated sets of WW2 rules I have ever played with all its add ons and special rules. Seems to take far longer to play than it should

[getagrip]

If you can stilll find it then Crossfire by Arty Conliffe is a great little game. the armour rules are a little weird but the game plays well. Not sure how well it would work playing solo though

A quick mention of FoW. For what is described as a quick WW2 game. I think it is perhaps one of the most over complicated sets of WW2 rules I have ever played with all its add ons and special rules. Seems to take far longer to play than it should

Cheers Steve, FoW has been shelved; BK2 it is (which you have recommended to me previously.

[Fenton]

Gareth

If your buying BKC on ebay  make sure you get the 2nd edition. It doesnt say on the front cover that it is 2nd edition but it will be grey rather than green

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Better yet get it via the web site and Lulu....

IanS

[getagrip]

Gareth

If your buying BKC on ebay  make sure you get the 2nd edition. It doesnt say on the front cover that it is 2nd edition but it will be grey rather than green

Better yet get it via the web site and Lulu....

IanS

Nothing doing on Evilbay; £12 via download it is

Come on fellas; Stalingrad army lists please

[Fenton]

I was lucky enough to get a brand new copy of it from a member of this forum for 3 chocolate and raisin Yorkie bars. He only wanted two but I was feeling generous

Join the BKC forum Gareth. You will see all the same people who are on this forum as well. Probably army lists or TOE's listed on it for Stalingrad

[getagrip]

I was lucky enough to get a brand new copy of it from a member of this forum for 3 chocolate and raisin Yorkie bars. He only wanted two but I was feeling generous

Join the BKC forum Gareth. You will see all the same people who are on this forum as well. Probably army lists or TOE's listed on it for Stalingrad

Cheers Steve

Anyone want to sell a copy?

[Fenton]

Cheers Steve

Anyone want to sell a copy?

I have a lovely copy with a nice green cover if you want to buy it

[GordonY]

For Lists

go here http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/

drop Pete a note telling him youve bought the rules, this will give you basic access to here http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/Content/Battlegroups/System.aspx

bung in Jerries or Ruskis set the date of your battle and you can then select from the kit available at that time (with restrictions)

[getagrip]

I have a lovely copy with a nice green cover if you want to buy it

Thanks Steve I'll pass; someone told me the grey cover is better

[getagrip]

For Lists

go here http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/

drop Pete a note telling him youve bought the rules, this will give you basic access to here http://www.blitzkrieg-commander.com/Content/Battlegroups/System.aspx

bung in Jerries or Ruskis set the date of your battle and you can then select from the kit available at that time (with restrictions)

Thanks Gordon; I'm having trouble registering at the mo.  Once I'm up and running I'll give it a go

Great help!

[Hertsblue]

Suggest you try a few, Getagrip. FOW is not, strictly speaking, a skirmish game. It's more a company level game with additions. It's not perfect (what set of rules is?) but it's reasonably easy to pick up. If you played it a few times you'd probably find yourself tinkering with the detail - the command and control mechanisms are rudimentary - and the "warrior" sections are aimed squarely at the 40K convert. We ignore them.

You pays your money and you takes your choice. 

[getagrip]

You pays your money and you takes your choice. 

Nail on the head there Herts

The main attraction for me is (I'm told) it's really similar to Warmaster.  I don't want to spend ages learning a new system, this is going to be a sideshow for the main (fantasy) event

[Fenton]

Thanks Steve I'll pass; someone told me the grey cover is better

But its a first edition!....Its signed and everthing