Landsknechts

[paulr]

and at uni for an awful long time 

Are any of us surprised by this 

[GrumpyOldMan]

AArrrgggh!!!!

Incidentally what do most people think of when the say renaissance? 

Could we not open this can of worms!!! Back in the day we had robust discussions when I was setting up a replacement discussion group, on what to call the period and what period it covered. It led to the replacement discussion group to be called REMPAS - ie Renaissance, Early Modern, Pike and Shot so that everybody could feel included 

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

A cultural movement, not a period of military history. But I suppose it's no sillier that "ancients" (a blanket term covering the overwhelming majority of human society, and frequently stretched to cover medievals), "colonials" (which assumes that nothing was colonised before the Victorians, or by anyone of non-European origins), "fantasy" (which is somehow distinguished from "sci-fi", I'm told, but sure as Hell not by anything remotely scientific in the latter, and doesn't include fielding Ayyubids against Carthaginians - ugh!), or "moderns" (which somehow excludes wars in which people still living participated, if one believes its afficionadi).

Let's face it, semantics and this hobby have little in common. Just read anything by Phil Barker.

And that, m'lud, is the case for the prosecution.

[DanJ]

Could we not open this can of worms!!!

That's why I asked it 

A cultural movement, not a period of military history

That's what I always think of, especially in Italy it ties in somewhat with the various Italian Wars which is where my main interest in Renaissance Warfare is centred.

[FierceKitty]

Let me buy you a drink, sir.

[Hertsblue]

A cultural movement, not a period of military history. But I suppose it's no sillier that "ancients" (a blanket term covering the overwhelming majority of human society, and frequently stretched to cover medievals), "colonials" (which assumes that nothing was colonised before the Victorians, or by anyone of non-European origins), "fantasy" (which is somehow distinguished from "sci-fi", I'm told, but sure as Hell not by anything remotely scientific in the latter, and doesn't include fielding Ayyubids against Carthaginians - ugh!), or "moderns" (which somehow excludes wars in which people still living participated, if one believes its afficionadi).

Let's face it, semantics and this hobby have little in common. Just read anything by Phil Barker.

And that, m'lud, is the case for the prosecution.

"Renaissance" is merely a label to obviate the need to repeat "a period of time in which medieval fortresses were rendered obsolete by artillery, firearms proliferated and eventually became the principle weapon of the infantry and the armoured horseman performed his swan-song" over and over again. As are the others.

Oh, and be warned, reading Phil Barker promotes hair-loss - torn out in bunches.     

[FierceKitty]

Language is the first casualty of laziness.

[toxicpixie]

I'd reply to that but it's effort. Meh.

[Leman]

So would I, but too much painting to do and just spent 5 minutes ranting at Ithoriel.