painting black

Started by raykey, 21 August 2014, 09:06:41 AM

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raykey

Got some special forces(15mm sas), They have black uniform and black body armour,how do you deliniate berween the  two, tried different ideas but they just look black

Fenton

Maybe a charcoal grey highlight on the edges of the armour?
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raykey

Will give it a go cheers

Ace of Spades

Since I paint with enamels I don't know if my advice will be of much use, but for what it's worth: Humbrol have a very dark grey (Panzergrey I believe it's called) and I use that for black cloth and items like that. You'll see the difference when you paint 'true' black next to it. After that a dark grey highlight on some of the 'soft' items usually does it...

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Rob
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Ithoriel

I tend to use different highlights - dark grey, dark blue, dark purple or very dark brown depending on what the material is supposed to be. I tend to use grey for fabric and the other colours for harder stuff like armour. Alternatively, all one colour highlight with matt varnish for fabric and gloss for leather/ armour/ etc.

Works for me, YMMV  
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Ace of Spades

Sounds sensible too Ithoriel and indeed is something that I also do!

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Rob
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Black, then black wash, then highlight dark grey on the edges. If it's black metallic then a flash of white helps!
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Matt J

blue grey edge on the armour something a bit subtler on the cloth.
Here are some of the 10mm scifi marines, the cloth isn't black but I used that technique on the armour.

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Poggle

If I have two areas of black to paint, I mix some flesh tone in one batch of paint. It makes a kind of 'rusty' black shade.

Last Hussar

The cloth should be lighter - it gets washed more.
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Subedai

Vallejo do  a Black Grey (862) which works really well as an alternative to black.
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Rob

I had a similar problem when painting my boys LOTR orcs (I know  :-$), every thing was very dark and the armour and helmets were black. I had a eureka moment when I dry brushed with silver. It made all the edges and high points stand out.

You might try grey, but I have found (except for armour) the best dry brushed high lighter is buff as it always seems to look very natural.

Cheers, Rob  :)

Last Hussar

I used "bolt metal" drybrush
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paulr

Quote from: Subedai on 21 August 2014, 03:44:57 PM
Vallejo do  a Black Grey (862) which works really well as an alternative to black.

This is now my favorite "black" after some earlier advice on the forum

Quote from: Rob on 21 August 2014, 04:10:50 PM
... I have found (except for armour) the best dry brushed high lighter is buff as it always seems to look very natural.

I use a very very light dry brush of  Vallejo Deck Tan as a final highlight
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nikharwood

I did my 28mm SWAT team using grey highlights for cloth & blue for armour:

http://nikharwood28mm.pbworks.com/w/page/7827194/SWAT%20team